• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    The Notwithstanding Clause was the worst possible thing they could have included in the Charter. There should be NO justifiable reason for any province to ever be able to suspend the Rights and Freedoms of Canadian citizens, unless those citizens are comitting a crime. Period. Full stop.

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      From what I remember, it was either that or no Charter.

      But yeah, we’re going to have to open the constitution up at some point, or we’ll end up like the US.

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      Its a piece of the charter of rights and freedoms that allows the government to ignore the charter of rights and freedoms, despite the judicial system declaring a law unconstitutional.

      Its required to be re-applied every 5 years.

      Since it was created, it is worth noting, its been used a handful of times, and only ever by provincial governments. It has almost exclusively been used by the conservative party through those years.

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          if i recall, it was a concession made by elder Trudeau to get provinces to sign off on the charter at all.

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            You recall correctly. The Alberta premier proposed it, and it’s something they included in the Alberta bill of rights earlier in the 70s.

            Without the notwithstanding clause the Charter would restrict the provinces’ legislative freedom and give the federal justices greater powers than the provincial representatives, when one of the defining features of the Westminster system is that of parliamentary sovereignty or supremacy. In the British system, parliament has the right to make or unmake any law.

            The current situation is like a compromise between having an enforceable written bill of rights and respecting the sovereignty of the provincial legislatures. Without the clause the provinces would never have agreed to the constitution.

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      Yes. Courts ruled the government would be violating section 7, “Life, liberty and security of the person”. Section 33 is the notwithstanding clause which allows governments to ignore section 7, among many others.

      Section 33, Notwithstanding clause:

      Parliament or the legislature of a province may expressly declare in an Act of Parliament or of the legislature, as the case may be, that the Act or a provision thereof shall operate notwithstanding a provision included in section 2 or sections 7 to 15 of this Charter.

      If you’re curious about which rights the government is allowed to ignore:

      Section 2(a) – Freedom of religion
      Section 2(b) – Freedom of expression
      Section 2© – Freedom of peaceful assembly
      Section 2(d) – Freedom of association
      Section 7 – Life, liberty and security of the person
      Section 8 – Search and seizure
      Section 9 – Arbitrary detention
      Section 10(a) – Right to be informed of reasons for detention or arrest
      Section 10(b) – Right to counsel
      Section 10© – Habeas corpus
      Section 11(a) – Right to be informed without unreasonable delay of the specific offence charged
      Section 11(b) – Trial within a reasonable time
      Section 11© – Protection against testimonial compulsion
      Section 11(d) – Presumption of innocence
      Section 11(e) – Right not to be denied reasonable bail without just cause
      Section 11(f) – Trial by jury
      Section 11(g) – Retroactive offences
      Section 11(h) – Protection against double jeopardy
      Section 11(i) – Lesser punishment
      Section 12 – Cruel and unusual treatment or punishment
      Section 13 – Protection against self-incrimination
      Section 14 – Right to an interpreter
      Section 15 – Equality rights

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      Section seven is subject to it.

      It’s mainly stuff related to elections that can’t be overruled since the remedy to misusing it is supposed to come at the ballot box.

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        Add to this the fact that convicted criminals can also vote so just charging all your opoments with a crime shouldn’t work.