Republicans in Ohio want to undermine the will of voters who approved a measure enshrining reproductive freedom into the state’s constitution

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    Republicans went against their own rules and held a special election in August to stop abortion; they lost. Republicans then lost in November and abortion rights were enshrined in Ohio’s constitution. Now Republicans are saying no to democracy and laws.

    Our problem here is all the Republicans. They’re anti-American. Ship them off to a place that fits them better.

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      “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” - David Frum

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        See also the “We’re a republic, not a democracy” talking point that swelled a year or two ago (and was even repeated by a senator). It’s patently stupid to anyone who knows the meaning of those words, but it was also testing the water for overt anti-democracy rhetoric.

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          Honestly, they’ve been well-actually-splaining that for quite a while now. Usually it goes along with a lecture about how “kids these days” are not forced to take a Civics class, and therefore, all these scholars have to step into the breach…

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            Very true. Subjectively, it just seemed to have a bit of a peak not too long ago. It was one of those right-wing talking points that got popular before they realized it was embarrassing and didn’t work.

            And yeah, I’m real sick of reactionary armchair “experts” who think they know more than people who actually study (and experience) the things they talk about with such confidence.

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    “No amendment can overturn the God-given rights with which we were born,”

    But then, that implies that you don’t have rights until you’re born…

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    It’s my Constitution-given right to not give a fuck what anybody’s god says I should do.

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      Are you sure it’s not? It’s illegal, sure, but I don’t think I personally know anyone who’s bothered by fascist punching.

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    They definetly have the right to not have abortions themselves. But that’s probably where the line should be drawn.

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    From the party that brought us great hits such as: Don’t Tread on Me, and Small Government! comes their new hit singles: Tread on You and Threateningly Massive Government!

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    If God wants it so bad, why doesn’t he handle it his goddamn self?

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    A God given right to enforce laws over the public at their own whims?

    So… Like a Monarchy and court of the throne?

    How deliciously un-american of the Ohio Republicans.

    If they’d like to join into a monarchical society, why not rejoin the Ol’ British Empire as a Colony?

    Shall we get the band back together on a mission from god?

    All you have to do is kneel before the king.

    So… Go on then… Kneel.

    (/S if you couldn’t tell, fuck the Monarchy)

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      They might be disappointed with some of King Charles’ opinions, especially when it comes to the environment. But, you know, God given right and all that!

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      Even the British Empire, at its height, was a Constitutional Monarchy and there were things the King simply could not do.

      Republicans are more of a “L’ etat, c’est moi” kind of governance.

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        That’s pretty much the only connotation the rest of the world thinks about that word. Until political news from Washington happens because of US-defaultism.

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      As a non- American, I straight up don’t understand how political representatives are not required to action the collective will of the people who elected them. It should be against the law, or subject to legal penalty in some way. .

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        It should be against the law, or subject to legal penalty in some way. .

        As an American, You are 100% right. Unfortunately these endless fuckholes think otherwise.

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      I say we make all the gods battle like Pokemon and whichever wins gets bred until they produce a sub-par sequel Universe that lets us collect and battle new gods! It will eventually become a multi-universe franchise but can only be played on the Super Cosmocom - unless you guys prefer collectible card games?

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    What they say their “god” says does not matter in a secular government. They can go fuck themselves. Whenever anyone talks about their god, in my head, I give it about as much relevance as if they were talking about what Harry Potter demands. Or

    Also, I’d like it if more people were to ask these radical right wing religious extremists which god they are talking about. All too often, we give this provincialism - that talking about “God” must mean we have to assume they are talking about Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah - a pass. Make them spell it out.

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      Hey, don’t get the Muslims involved. Their god sanctions abortions (under specific circumstances, though over the years these have mostly evolved to: mother in danger, rape, child will be severely handicapped or the old, we don’t have the effing money for one more mouth to feed and may God forgive us and we won’t talk to anybody about it).

      That’s why it baffled me to see Canadian Muslims support their Christian counterparts to ban abortions.

      At this point, I have to say that they’ve never even read their books.

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        Same with Judaism. The fetus isn’t considered alive until it emerges from the woman. Until that point, it’s considered potential life and not as important as the woman’s actual life. In fact, the fetus is considered part of the woman the same way as her hip bone is part of her body.

        In Judaism, getting an abortion isn’t considered murder like some Christians think it is. Then again, those Christians don’t care what other religions (or people who aren’t religious) think. They want their religious views to be the law of the land.

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        My comment was not about Muslims, it was aimed at xtians and the way the term “God” is provincially just meant to mean theirs. Interestingly enough, they have the same god as Muslims, since they are both Abrahamic religions. Allah = Jehovah.

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          If we consider them to be literary characters rather than an actual divine being, then I’m comfortable saying the God of Jews, Christians, and Muslims are all separate. They’re about as similar as Ares and Athena (both fitting into the god of war slot for the Greeks, but in different ways).

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            They all use the same source material as their origin story and source of “authority”, even if there have been various retcons and reboots. Shrug.