Am I vastly underestimating the gorilla here? 100 men? We’re swarming that dude like ants. His eyes are getting poked out in the first 30 seconds.
One of the things that sets the human animal apart is throwing things. That poor gorilla is getting pelted with a million rocks. RIP hambre sr.
the whole premise is that it’s hand-to-hand. if weapons are allowed there’s no question to begin with. it’s 1 man vs 1 gorilla and the man wins.
We’re swarming that dude like ants.
Are we? Or are we standing awkwardly in a circle, waiting for some other dumbass to make the first move, because the first guy to make a move is not gonna have a fun time.
If not fighting is an option, I guess the men will stand in a crowd making noise and the gorilla will just chill in his corner. I suppose you have to assume that all parties are 100% committed to violence
I mean, is this just an impromptu gorilla fight, or do we get to plan?
People who want to fistfight a gorilla aren’t probably too big on planning.
See, I didn’t see “slappers only” as a requirement, considering that the dudes in the cave painting were usin’ spears.
The gorilla could kill ten men with one swipe of his arm.
Even if that were true, there’d be 90 others getting clean hits in. Yea, many guys aren’t walking away from a bare knuckled fight with a gorilla, but the point is, neither is the one gorilla.
Lol, in this scenario the majority of the injuries/deaths would be from the stampede of people running away from the gorilla after seeing it disembowel someone.
This is like someone saying why don’t groups of people always just rush someone with an ar-15?
No, this is a planned fight to the death. Only an idiot assumes only pansies are signing up for it. If the gorilla is equally informed and willing about the situation, the gorilla looses.
No, this is a planned fight to the death. Only an idiot assumes only pansies are signing up for it.
How many people do you think actually have experiences with a “fight to the death”, and how many people insane enough to sign up for this would just be people overestimating their own skills and bravery?
gorilla is equally informed and willing about the situation, the gorilla looses.
My guy… it’s a gorilla. A gorilla cannot be as equally informed and willing as a person. What are you going to do, make it sign a contract?
Humans aren’t made of paper.
Even swinging a metal girder wouldn’t kill 10 men in one go, just the first few and maim a couple more.
Some people seem to forget that humans can cause literal stampedes with each other in large crowds and will suffocate anything underneath.
I don’t think a mammoth, or even a bull, would be very impressed by some humans stampedeing.
I bet any mommoth would be impressed by this.
With a little creativity, and total dedication despite the high chance of being ripped apart, 100 men could take down a silverback without weapons or tools. Some go for the legs, some go for the arms, some go for the eyes, and then there’s the really buff guy that locks arms around the head, while the others turn him by the feet, like a wrench, until it’s neck breaks. Or someone jams their arm down it’s throat until it suffocates. May take a few attempts and arms. Or there’s the butthole, someone mentioned entrails, I dunno. Imagination.
~25 are more than enough, if they are willing to die. Once a single person gets on the gorillas back while it is distracted and does a proper rear-naked-choke its gg.
Edit: Even if you think this is bs, there is no fucking way a gorilla could take 100. People are vastly overestimating how strong the average gorilla is and underestimating how strong a human pumped full of adrenaline is.
Only way the gorilla wins is if it’s 100 wussies that’d just watch until it was their turn to get wrecked.
Even then, the gorilla would certainly need a nap before finishing everyone off. After all, humans have a greater capacity for energy output, and it’d be similar to putting down 100 pacifist pitbulls with your bare hands. Even athletes would tire out before finishing that off.
100%. A good comparison is 100 rats vs 1 human. And a human is much closer in strength to a gorilla than to a rat.
Ehh, a healthy male human could put down 100 pacifist rats, though, assuming they cannot hide. The entire point is a silverback literally cannot kill 100 men in one sitting unless they all walked up to it and politely asked to have their neck wrung.
A mandrill is much closer to human vs gorilla, if on the small side, and similarly, even an athlete would struggle to put out that much energy unless they all openly assisted in their own demise.
In this case I was talking about an actual fight. I should have explained that better. You are right though.
A guy still has a solid chance of killing 100 rats vs 100 mandrills, though. Just imagine a metal-head in a mosh pit stomping around… They definitely pass 100 stomps before they’re tired. There’s going to be WAY more dead rats than dead humans vs a gorilla even if the rats managed to bite enough.
OK I assume the hypothetical implies either the humans are bare handed or that the gorrilla also gets a weapon.
Though, outside of hammers and swords I don’t think that really gives the Gorrila much of an advantage…
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tbf, 100 unarmed men vs. a gorilla is probably about the same difficulty level as 20 men armed with literal sticks vs. a mammoth
Don’t underestimate the power of a pointy stick. Whatever size advantage the beast may have, it’s not going to be able to simply ignore stab wounds.
Look at it this way, if you were naked and unarmed, and a dozen or more little imps as tall as your knee started stabbing at you from all angles with spears that can easily rupture your vital organs, how brave would you be to charge at them and try to kill them all with your bare hands?
Visualizing this made me think twice, even trice
Strong disagree. The sheer maneuverability advantage a gorilla has (over a mammoth) makes it considerably harder for unarmed fighters. A reach weapon that you can poke at the mammoth’s ass, forcing it to run and exert itself on defense. I don’t think the mammoth is killing as many humans as the gorilla, or even a proportional amount.
My only source for fighting animals is my experience fending off a wild dog. But tell me I’m wrong, I want to hear why so I can counterpoint.
A gorilla to a human is nowhere near the same difference. A large gorilla is ~500 lbs. There are healthy humans almost that heavy. Even if you average it down to 200lb able bodied men, the gorilla won’t have the capacity to kill that many passive men before it’s a panting heap on the floor.
Could you kill 100 passive large mandrills before tiring out? Could you kill 100 not passive mandrills before dying? That’s the situation the gorilla is in.
You’re arguing with me about something I don’t believe in.
100 unarmed men body a gorilla.
I’m saying I think a gorilla could kill a higher number of unarmed humans than a mammoth could kill of armed humans.
Disclaimer: I’ve never fought a gorilla, or obviously a mammoth.
I’d believe it if someone told me a grown human could survive a glancing blow from a gorilla. If he has his focus on you then yeah you’re fucked, but if he’s surrounded by 30 guys with 70 more waiting to reinforce, his attention is probably going to be a bit scattered.
If you get hit by anything on a mammoth, either kicked or tusked, by sheer difference of mass I expect you’re out of that fight. One good trampling tantrum might take out 20 guys who are trying to be in melee range. Mammoth is going to burn through the reinforcements a lot faster I think.
If we’re allowed to throw the spears though this might change the entire fight, for both fights.
Also, looking into it, I can’t find any videos of an elephant kicking behind itself. I’m not sure that it has any way of defending its backside. I assume mammoths are similar.
I don’t understand why it would change the unarmed gorilla fight? But yes I would assume throwing the spears is almost certainly the most common tactic tbh.
Edit: but also we are talking about spears. If attacking from behind, at spear range, I don’t think a mammoth has opportunity for a trample attack. They would certainly need to swing around and attack with their tusks, giving attackers ample time to back up.
…with weapons? Of course.
Unarmed? Fuck, no.
Unarmed? Absolutely. Humans are uniquely capable harassers. A gorilla would get winded after a short while and overheat not long after. The question isn’t whether the humans win, the question is how many people will die before the people start getting free shots at a barely conscious horizontal ape.
Unless the gorilla is windmill arming and people are just walking into the grinder, it’s always a win.
Last time this made the rounds I asked ChatGPT the question.
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In a realistic, unarmed, hand-to-hand fight, 100 average human men would almost certainly lose to a fully grown adult male silverback gorilla — unless they approached it with extreme coordination, strategy, and sacrifice.
Here’s why:
🦍 Gorilla Advantages: Strength: A silverback gorilla is 4 to 9 times stronger than a trained adult male human. It can lift over 1,800 lbs (800+ kg) in some cases. Speed & Reflexes: Gorillas are incredibly fast and agile for their size. They can run up to 20–25 mph (32–40 km/h) in short bursts. Toughness: Their bones are denser, their muscles thicker, and they can absorb more trauma than a human. Killing Power: They can crush limbs, rip faces, and bite with over 1,300 psi of jaw force — enough to crush a coconut or break bone. 👨 Human Limitations: Average Men: Most people are not trained fighters, and many would hesitate or flee. Unarmed: No tools, no weapons, no armor. That means no ranged attacks or serious damage dealers. Space Constraint: In a tight area, humans can’t swarm effectively. The gorilla could focus on one or two at a time. Could They Possibly Win? Technically, yes — in theory — if they:
Coordinated as a team with some willing to sacrifice themselves (i.e., get mauled or killed to restrain the gorilla). Dog-piled it, using sheer weight and numbers to pin it down. Targeted eyes, throat, joints in a sustained assault. Even then, it would result in dozens of human deaths or severe maimings. A rampaging gorilla could instantly incapacitate multiple men with swipes and throws before they even got close.
Verdict: 99.9% of the time, the gorilla wins, unless the 100 men are highly trained, brave, and coordinated. Even then, the casualty rate would be catastrophic. So, unless this is a highly tactical team of Spartans or martial artists, the gorilla reigns supreme.
Here, watch someone who actually knows what the hell they’re talking about explain it to you instead of listening to dumbass predictive text machines that literally cannot think it through.
I ask Todd at the rhe bus stop what he thought and he said he could easily defeat a gorilla single handedly.
Well of course, but the scenario is a 100 unarmed men, not one Todd. That scenario would just be ridiculous.
Really? And what exactly is a human naturally equipped with, that can do any kind of damage to a gorilla? Lol!
Touch the eyes, bite the balls, and lick the ears, of course.
Lol! Wet Willy it to death? Hmmm. You might be into something, there.
Fingers, arms and teeth?
Assuming the gorilla was successfully exhausted, you can continuously rip fur from it. Or you can bite it - human teeth and our jaw muscle are strong enough to go reasonably deep. That takes a lot of time though.
Or, provided you are able to coordinate properly, 10 people can hold down the exhausted gorilla which would allow the remaining people to strangle it by sitting on his neck or something. The jaw could probably be held shut by a single person since jaw muscles suck at opening the jaw.
All we would do, is break our hands, feet and teeth trying to do any kind of damage. Meanwhile, a gorilla can crush your skull with a single swat, or break your femur by simply squeezing and twisting its wrist. It wouldn’t even require enough energy to eventually get exhausted.
I don’t mean to be crass, but how does a hyena begin eating an antelope?
Lol! Are you suggesting that a human could do actual damage to a gorilla…by biting it?
A hyena has long, sharp teeth and a bite strength that can crush bone. Humans regularly break their teeth eating candy.
To answer my question, by forcing its head inside of the antelope and pulling its entrails from its live body.
Lol! I take it back. That might just work.
No one is saying that you’re just chucking a Gorilla and a Human/group of humans into a ring.
if the human/humans know that they will be fighting a Gorilla then they can fashion weapons and strategies.
A single human could easily kill a gorilla if they could choose the time and place of the engagement.
It’s how we became the dominant species on the planet
The premise is and has always been 100 unarmed humans (I think men, specifically).
That is exactly what everyone has been saying the whole time. 100 unarmed humans in a ring with 1 gorilla.
I’ve not heard
unarmedbeing specified. but that’s not how humans fight.You could start unarmed and then improvise a weapon
Right, I don’t know how you missed it, it’s been unarmed the whole time. It’s built into the premise of the original viral post.
It’s a hypothetical. What you’re saying right now doesn’t matter. The hypothetical premise has always been “unarmed”. Look it up lol.
Edit: i looked it up and cannot find the “original hypothetical premise” I claimed existed, so, fuck me.
That being said… yeah. One man with a weapon bodies a gorilla. People are so fucking stupid.
But are 100 men stupid? 🤔
Exactly. Weapons are required.
Unarmed? Fuck, no.
Here. Watch someone who actually knows what the fuck they’re talking about explain it to you. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFf6YowOm7o
I don’t use YouTube and you’re taking a theoretical exercise very seriously. The reason people debate this question is because there is no definitive right answer.
Maybe take a couple deep breaths and calm down.
Humans literally evolved to use tools, it’s like asking a tiger to hunt without using their claws. Taking tools away from humans is not making them equal to the animal they are hunting, it’s handicapping them.
If you want to make them equal then the fight is 1 v 1 and the human has tools.
Me explaining why I brought a gun to the MMA fight
Gorillas are apes, just like us. They didn’t evolve to use claws or fangs…or tools. Just sheer, brute strength. We cannot compete with that, any more than we can against a tiger.
Which is why I said what I said…weapons? Yes. Unarmed? No.
100 men can’t take on one Gorilla? It’d only take a few to strategize and chase it to exhaustion.
And then what? Slap it to death? Tell it unbearable jokes until it kills itself? Even exhausted, a gorilla could kill you with a casual backhand. What could you do, in return?
If it can kill you backhanded it’s not exhausted enough. I don’t think you’re thinking savagely enough.
What would you even do, to make it exhausted? In the wild, gorillas are not afraid of people. They just sit there looking at you, until you get on their nerves. There’s nothing you or a hundred people could do to tire it out, if it simply chooses not to move.
Tell me you’ve never had a small child pester the fuck out of you without telling me you’re not an uncle…
The gorilla is fucked six ways from Sunday no matter what it wants.
You make it kill people until it is exhausted
Don’t let it rest or sleep until it collapses from exhaustion. Humans have been persistence hunters for a long time. With 100 men that becomes a job of taking shifts shouting and running around. Early on the gorilla may catch some of the men, as it tires it becomes less effective. If the humans are allowed to pick up sticks, stones or even mud, the job becomes easier and safer. Once the gorilla passes out you can either declare the fight won, or move onto the grizzly business of killing it either by strangulation or wounding.
Once a couple of humans die the others can fashion their bones into weaponry
Brutal, but quite possibly effective.
How would you even do that? What possible action could you take against a gorilla, that would lead to its exhaustion? Even if it fell asleep, and ten people jumped on it all at once (because there wouldn’t be enough room for all 100 to approach)…it would wake up just long enough to kill them all, before rolling over again, and going back to sleep.
Or it could just sit and wait patiently, for the humans to do nothing. Stalemate.
There’s one gorilla and 100 men. With 30 men per shift you have enough people to harrass the gorilla with loud noises, feints and just being a potential threat. Don’t let it eat, drink or sleep for a few days and it’ll likely drop from dehydration if nothing else. Even if it gets water, the average western lowland gorilla needs to eat around 20kg of vegetation per day. I suppose it would depend on where this confrontation took place, but it should be possible to distract it and prevent it eating for some time.
If the contestants, gorilla and human alike, are allowed to pick up and use things in the environment, then it really is game over for the gorilla as it runs from a hail of sticks, stones, mud and anything else the humans can lay their hands on.
A gorilla has a fearsome turn of speed over short distances, but, from what I can find out, even if they slow down close to human walking speed it can only go a few miles before needing to rest. If the humans are allowed use their environment to harrass the gorilla they can kerp it moving long past the point it would choose to stop, and they’ll eventually wear it down to the point it can’t defend itself.
I can see how making noise might keep it awake, but how will you stop it from eating and drinking? It can basically ignore you, no matter how many people are with you, and just go about its business as if you weren’t even there. If you try to physically prevent it from doing anything, you are automatically going to be within striking distance…which means instant death to anyone who tries.
Stopping it eating or drinking would involve being a constant low grade threat that it has to spend time and energy monitoring. Gorillas normally live in groups which means that while one is on lookout duty the others can feed in peace. A single gorilla being constantly harassed by what is comparatively huge group of humans would find itself in a constant state of fight-or-flight.
If the humans were ineffective at stopping it drinking in particular, or finding hydrating food, the contest could end up going on for a very long time.
Obviously, a lot depends on the exact rules and location of the encounter. If it’s in the gorilla’s prefered forests and the humans can’t use the environment, it’ll be a stalemate. If it’s somewhere enclosed, so the humans can’t escape, the gorilla wins. If it’s somewhere reasonably open, with less food, the humans could wear the gorilla down. If both sides can use the environment it swings it further towards the humans by overwhealming numbers throwing things.
Y’all are severely overestimating unarmed humans. It’s ridiculous, unless the gorilla is sleeping. 15-20 men could dogpile the gorilla and it would just stand up and swat ten other men down with one arm.
The gorilla could charge the group like silverbacks seem to always do, half the men would instantly be incapacitated.
The gorilla could take one guy, lift him by his head swinging him around to beat all the other men, or just rip the guys legs off and then use the legs as weapons.
The gorilla could climb a tree and then take a nap, and any of the guys who tried to climb the tree would fall to their deaths.
With spears or sticks or rocks the men would win, but without any weapons, it’s dumb to think the men even have a chance….
In real life… a hundred men could scare a gorilla away, as long as the gorilla didn’t realize they were unarmed.
Biologist Dirk Draulans commented on this topic and his conclusion was that the first 10 to 20 people would be cannon fodder who’d get their limbs ripped off, but after two minutes the gorilla would tire and be overpowered. Similar to running it’s humans their endurance that wins over explosiveness.
If we allow for skilled fighters, I bet only a handful would even suffer serious injury before the gorilla was either tired out or choked to the floor. Gorillas aren’t that much bigger than a healthy male unless you’re only pulling from Indonesia or something ridiculous like that. 300-500lbs vs 180-200lbs. All the doubters are clearly imagining a 2000lb killing machine… (hell someone else was comparing them to mammoths!)
You are hilariously overestimating a gorilla. Completely and utterly. A large gorilla is only ~500lbs. There are some healthy humans that weigh about that much.
Would you be able to play around in a fight vs 100 mandrills? Because there’s more of a difference between a mandrill and a human male than a human male and a silverback. You are imagining WAY too much for a gorilla.
Here. Watch someone who actually knows what the hell they’re talking about. https://youtube.com/watch?v=cFf6YowOm7o
There are some healthy humans that weigh about that much.
What? Even if you were 2.5 metres tall, you’d still be very obese.
Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson was ~460lbs at his heaviest. He is not obese.
Fake news!
