• Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    100 men can’t take on one Gorilla? It’d only take a few to strategize and chase it to exhaustion.

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      And then what? Slap it to death? Tell it unbearable jokes until it kills itself? Even exhausted, a gorilla could kill you with a casual backhand. What could you do, in return?

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        2 days ago

        Don’t let it rest or sleep until it collapses from exhaustion. Humans have been persistence hunters for a long time. With 100 men that becomes a job of taking shifts shouting and running around. Early on the gorilla may catch some of the men, as it tires it becomes less effective. If the humans are allowed to pick up sticks, stones or even mud, the job becomes easier and safer. Once the gorilla passes out you can either declare the fight won, or move onto the grizzly business of killing it either by strangulation or wounding.

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          2 days ago

          How would you even do that? What possible action could you take against a gorilla, that would lead to its exhaustion? Even if it fell asleep, and ten people jumped on it all at once (because there wouldn’t be enough room for all 100 to approach)…it would wake up just long enough to kill them all, before rolling over again, and going back to sleep.

          Or it could just sit and wait patiently, for the humans to do nothing. Stalemate.

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            There’s one gorilla and 100 men. With 30 men per shift you have enough people to harrass the gorilla with loud noises, feints and just being a potential threat. Don’t let it eat, drink or sleep for a few days and it’ll likely drop from dehydration if nothing else. Even if it gets water, the average western lowland gorilla needs to eat around 20kg of vegetation per day. I suppose it would depend on where this confrontation took place, but it should be possible to distract it and prevent it eating for some time.

            If the contestants, gorilla and human alike, are allowed to pick up and use things in the environment, then it really is game over for the gorilla as it runs from a hail of sticks, stones, mud and anything else the humans can lay their hands on.

            A gorilla has a fearsome turn of speed over short distances, but, from what I can find out, even if they slow down close to human walking speed it can only go a few miles before needing to rest. If the humans are allowed use their environment to harrass the gorilla they can kerp it moving long past the point it would choose to stop, and they’ll eventually wear it down to the point it can’t defend itself.

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              I can see how making noise might keep it awake, but how will you stop it from eating and drinking? It can basically ignore you, no matter how many people are with you, and just go about its business as if you weren’t even there. If you try to physically prevent it from doing anything, you are automatically going to be within striking distance…which means instant death to anyone who tries.

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                Stopping it eating or drinking would involve being a constant low grade threat that it has to spend time and energy monitoring. Gorillas normally live in groups which means that while one is on lookout duty the others can feed in peace. A single gorilla being constantly harassed by what is comparatively huge group of humans would find itself in a constant state of fight-or-flight.

                If the humans were ineffective at stopping it drinking in particular, or finding hydrating food, the contest could end up going on for a very long time.

                Obviously, a lot depends on the exact rules and location of the encounter. If it’s in the gorilla’s prefered forests and the humans can’t use the environment, it’ll be a stalemate. If it’s somewhere enclosed, so the humans can’t escape, the gorilla wins. If it’s somewhere reasonably open, with less food, the humans could wear the gorilla down. If both sides can use the environment it swings it further towards the humans by overwhealming numbers throwing things.

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                  Meh, even if no one can escape the humans still win. You GREATLY underestimate how much 100 men can do. They could tire out the gorilla simply by trying to fight it like savages, no strategy required. and that’s if noone gets cheap shots or choke holds in before the gorilla is an overheated mess.

                  Remember, BIG gorillas are only ~500lbs, so it’d be similar to a human fighting 100 large dogs. Even if those dogs cannot bite, that human is fucked, just like the gorilla would be.

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        If it can kill you backhanded it’s not exhausted enough. I don’t think you’re thinking savagely enough.

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          What would you even do, to make it exhausted? In the wild, gorillas are not afraid of people. They just sit there looking at you, until you get on their nerves. There’s nothing you or a hundred people could do to tire it out, if it simply chooses not to move.

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            Tell me you’ve never had a small child pester the fuck out of you without telling me you’re not an uncle…

            The gorilla is fucked six ways from Sunday no matter what it wants.

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              I’m a father, with plenty of experience around small children. What’s exhausting, is the effort you put into not losing your patience when they’re being annoying. If I didn’t give a shit what happened to them, I wouldn’t have lost a minute’s worth of sleep.

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                Even if there’s 100 of them smacking you in the face constantly? I’ma’ hit X to doubt on that one… Just think of how annoying a fly is. 100 of anything that’s barely under half your weight pestering you is going to be impossible to ignore. Period.

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                  Like I said, if I wasn’t concerned about hurting them…then there wouldn’t be 100 of them for very long. It wouldn’t take a lot of effort to mow through them, as soon as they got within reach. It’s not like they pose much threat to a full-grown adult. The worst that you’d get are some scratches.

                  It would be no different for a gorilla against people. We don’t stand a chance. We’re just physically incapable of doing much damage, without weapons.

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                    Oh no, 100 kids actually trying to kill you could do serious damage. Adult males with an understanding of anatomy could do even more damage to a gorilla. You’re simply imagining a much, MUCH greater difference than actually exists.