I really want that fundraiser site to be breached so we can find out who the assholes are donating to him. Fire all of them, too. Ruin their presumably already shitty lives.
Do your idea first to lure out all their money, then get them all fired.
See how their belief in Medicare and Medicaid changes then.
Only downside would potentially be if they have non-evil offspring. That would take money out of their inheritance, which is bad. Also potentially need them up in the mean time even. But ultimately that’s on them too, sooo fire away.
“Invasion of privacy and illegal surveillance” are typically terms you associate with people and institutions of power. Not hackers outing hate groups. There is a distinct difference between “illegal surveillance” and shouting the names of self-proclaimed nazis and fascists to protect vulnerable populations from them.
It’s not “a side” that’s doing it, it’s people. Not institutions, not a government. It’s protection from those that would use actual illegal surveillance to target out-groups. Paradox of tolerance plays heavily in this scenario. People are all for protecting the innocent. But when people like you say, “well, wait a second now, these fascists deserve privacy too,” you play right into the natural evolution of fascism.
You absolutely are. Your very fist sentence was “Invasion of privacy and illegal surveillance isn’t okay just because it’s your side that’s doing it.”
I’m arguing legality.
Not a single person has argued that it was legal, and all of your response are about how it’s ‘wrong’ or how we are ‘hypocrites’.
People can’t cry foul when it’s done to them and then demand it be done to others.
It’s already being done to us, and we have already cried foul, and people like you don’t give a single solitary fuck- so why in the hell would we care about what you think?
LMFAO. Sweetie, you are the only person on this thread who is confused about that. We know it’s illegal, not a single person has argued that it wasn’t illegal. We don’t care if it’s illegal or not. How is this a hard concept to grasp? I’m pretty sure I can explain this to a kindergartner and they would get it.
You are defending the Nazis from the Nazi fund raiser. You don’t want them to be exposed.
“Woke shit” and “Nazi shit” are not comparable.
You’re conflating “illegal” with “just” or “the right thing to do”. Those are two different attributes. Something can be legal and horrifying. Something can be illegal and just.
So this part:
It’s not illegal to be “woke” or whatever the fuck MAGA is calling people, and it’s not illegal to follow dumb Nazi shit. Therefore, NEITHER should be illegally survived.
Doesn’t work. It’s not a question of if it’s illegal. That is largely irrelevant. The proposed action of “we should find out who these Nazis are” may be illegal, but that’s irrelevant. Unimportant.
Nazis are a threat to everyone and should not be tolerated.
You’re giving very lawful-neutral vibes, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you were lawful-evil.
You can make an argument that all laws should apply to everyone equally all the time, but that’s not how the world works right now, neither in practice nor theory, but you also should consider the “paradox of tolerance” problem. It is not a good idea to let Nazis just go around doing Nazi stuff.
The guy admitted to being a Nazi. He admitted to being a fascist. The people donating to him are also open about it. You are LITERALLY defending NAZi’s.
Usually I’d agree, but when you’re talking about literal Nazis, then that goes out the window. They are a cancer to civilized society, and we should be aware of who they are. They’re malignant fucking tumors.
eat shit dude. the fascists aren’t playing by the rules and they’re raping the fuck out of democracy because of it. at what point are you going to wake up and see there is no honor in this fight worth keeping?
in a fight to the death, there is no honor to be had.
you know there was a word for people like you in post war Germany.
Mitläufer. It means “fellow traveler”, but not like a companion, more akin to a parasite. it was used to label the people who were guilty of following Nazi rule without argument. a better way to describe them was passive sympathizers.
you know what happened to some Nazi sympathizers after the war? You should ask the Russians where they left some of the lucky corpses. the others were tortured and enslaved then worked to death. the real unlucky ones lived for a very long time in the worst conditions you can’t even imagine. doesn’t matter though, they were Nazis and nobody should sympathize with a Nazi.
oh yeah, some were spared the horrors they wrought upon the world. they did spend the rest of their lives watching their backs though. it wasn’t uncommon for Mitläufer to come to America and find themselves hanging from a tree or tossed in some ravine.
Don’t ever make an excuse for what they represent.
you’re either a Nazi, a Mitläufer, or a person. you can never be more than one of those.
We take away people’s rights ALL THE TIME when they don’t respect other peoples’ rights. You’re a brainless moron if you cannot understand the equivalence between an open Nazi and someone running around down town yelling threats at everyone. They SHOULD both be arrested and charged with crimes, yet only one does.
Neither is wiping your ass with the constitution and having a coalition of degenerate brown shirt wannabees harass, incarcerate and murder people simply for existing.
You must be an American Dem…always bring a knife to a gunfight. Just roll over an eat shit because someone called you names?
Your attitude doesn’t work any more. Period.
Only on such pissbrained, surface level, ignorant level that you seem to operate on.
I bet you also say it doesn’t matter who starts a fight if both people end up throwing punches. Your viewpoint us not only pathetic, but ignorant, and is exemplary of everyone MLK Jr constantly warned about. You are a worthless pushover who creates room for terrible people to accomplish their goals, and if you had an once of self awareness, you’d be ashamed of yourself.
I really want that fundraiser site to be breached so we can find out who the assholes are donating to him. Fire all of them, too. Ruin their presumably already shitty lives.
Nah, just dox em so that everyone starts trying to grift them out of cash. fresh meat.
Do your idea first to lure out all their money, then get them all fired.
See how their belief in Medicare and Medicaid changes then.
Only downside would potentially be if they have non-evil offspring. That would take money out of their inheritance, which is bad. Also potentially need them up in the mean time even. But ultimately that’s on them too, sooo fire away.
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“Invasion of privacy and illegal surveillance” are typically terms you associate with people and institutions of power. Not hackers outing hate groups. There is a distinct difference between “illegal surveillance” and shouting the names of self-proclaimed nazis and fascists to protect vulnerable populations from them.
It’s not “a side” that’s doing it, it’s people. Not institutions, not a government. It’s protection from those that would use actual illegal surveillance to target out-groups. Paradox of tolerance plays heavily in this scenario. People are all for protecting the innocent. But when people like you say, “well, wait a second now, these fascists deserve privacy too,” you play right into the natural evolution of fascism.
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Something being illegal or not says absolutely nothing about it’s morality. Quite often, immoral things are legal and moral things are illegal.
Saying something is bad because it’s illegal is an incredibly simplistic pov.
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You absolutely are. Your very fist sentence was “Invasion of privacy and illegal surveillance isn’t okay just because it’s your side that’s doing it.”
Not a single person has argued that it was legal, and all of your response are about how it’s ‘wrong’ or how we are ‘hypocrites’.
It’s already being done to us, and we have already cried foul, and people like you don’t give a single solitary fuck- so why in the hell would we care about what you think?
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LMFAO. Sweetie, you are the only person on this thread who is confused about that. We know it’s illegal, not a single person has argued that it wasn’t illegal. We don’t care if it’s illegal or not. How is this a hard concept to grasp? I’m pretty sure I can explain this to a kindergartner and they would get it.
They can believe they’re the good guys and they are wrong.
Stop defending nazis
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You are defending the Nazis from the Nazi fund raiser. You don’t want them to be exposed.
“Woke shit” and “Nazi shit” are not comparable.
You’re conflating “illegal” with “just” or “the right thing to do”. Those are two different attributes. Something can be legal and horrifying. Something can be illegal and just.
So this part:
Doesn’t work. It’s not a question of if it’s illegal. That is largely irrelevant. The proposed action of “we should find out who these Nazis are” may be illegal, but that’s irrelevant. Unimportant.
Nazis are a threat to everyone and should not be tolerated.
You’re giving very lawful-neutral vibes, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you were lawful-evil.
You can make an argument that all laws should apply to everyone equally all the time, but that’s not how the world works right now, neither in practice nor theory, but you also should consider the “paradox of tolerance” problem. It is not a good idea to let Nazis just go around doing Nazi stuff.
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The guy admitted to being a Nazi. He admitted to being a fascist. The people donating to him are also open about it. You are LITERALLY defending NAZi’s.
Self-proclaimed fascists who openly disparage our Constitutional rights shouldn’t have rights themselves.
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Dude wasn’t talking about you
Usually I’d agree, but when you’re talking about literal Nazis, then that goes out the window. They are a cancer to civilized society, and we should be aware of who they are. They’re malignant fucking tumors.
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I’m not on either side but I will point out the nazi will do it even if they don’t have a reason
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eat shit dude. the fascists aren’t playing by the rules and they’re raping the fuck out of democracy because of it. at what point are you going to wake up and see there is no honor in this fight worth keeping?
in a fight to the death, there is no honor to be had.
I’m reminded of the quote from Sekiro about knowing the difference between honor and victory
Best game ever
For those of us who haven’t played it, the quote is “A shinobi (Ninja) would know the difference between honor and victory.”
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you know there was a word for people like you in post war Germany.
Mitläufer. It means “fellow traveler”, but not like a companion, more akin to a parasite. it was used to label the people who were guilty of following Nazi rule without argument. a better way to describe them was passive sympathizers.
you know what happened to some Nazi sympathizers after the war? You should ask the Russians where they left some of the lucky corpses. the others were tortured and enslaved then worked to death. the real unlucky ones lived for a very long time in the worst conditions you can’t even imagine. doesn’t matter though, they were Nazis and nobody should sympathize with a Nazi.
oh yeah, some were spared the horrors they wrought upon the world. they did spend the rest of their lives watching their backs though. it wasn’t uncommon for Mitläufer to come to America and find themselves hanging from a tree or tossed in some ravine.
Don’t ever make an excuse for what they represent.
you’re either a Nazi, a Mitläufer, or a person. you can never be more than one of those.
pick your side.
We take away people’s rights ALL THE TIME when they don’t respect other peoples’ rights. You’re a brainless moron if you cannot understand the equivalence between an open Nazi and someone running around down town yelling threats at everyone. They SHOULD both be arrested and charged with crimes, yet only one does.
Interesting how you defend one of them, though.
Still living inside the Paradox of Tolerence, I see
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Neither is wiping your ass with the constitution and having a coalition of degenerate brown shirt wannabees harass, incarcerate and murder people simply for existing.
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You must be an American Dem…always bring a knife to a gunfight. Just roll over an eat shit because someone called you names? Your attitude doesn’t work any more. Period.
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Only on such pissbrained, surface level, ignorant level that you seem to operate on.
I bet you also say it doesn’t matter who starts a fight if both people end up throwing punches. Your viewpoint us not only pathetic, but ignorant, and is exemplary of everyone MLK Jr constantly warned about. You are a worthless pushover who creates room for terrible people to accomplish their goals, and if you had an once of self awareness, you’d be ashamed of yourself.
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Woah there buddy I’m sorry but you aren’t allowed to post shit like that here.
We don’t take the high road here.
Do you know what you get when you take the high road against murderous Nazis?
Death. You get death. They kill you.
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We didn’t start the civil war, but we can’t ignore it.