We do not exist in a world with technology sufficient to entirely eliminate labor. Even highly automated industry like in the PRC, labor-power is still paramount for production. A transition to socialism can allow us to better direct production consciously, rather than letting the eldritch god capital decide everything based on profitability, but we will not be able to eliminate labor, only center it, rather than capital.
what are you on about? ever look at a modern factory? they’re filled with robots that do enough work to replace 10 people.
obviously under capitalism this work just goes into making rich people richer, which is why we need to get rid of capitalism so these fancy robots we’ve built can actually let us live chill lives with minimal required human labour.
If we pushed to fully automate everything that possibly can be automated, there wouldn’t be much work left. Jobs right now are just busywork.
The news drones on and on about labor shortages, but I’ve never seen a desperate employer. The trades say there’s shortages, but all the trades are flooded with apprentices, and then there’s pre-apprentices flooded in behind them. Office jobs have to sort through hundreds of applications for a single opening. Hell, even low wage jobs have huge labor pools ready to work, but the owners still find a way to nitpick. Things are horrifically upside down.
are you being intentionally obtuse? yes obviously we don’t have androids that can do ALL the work for us, but we have robots that can do a hell of a lot of work for us, and especially the laborious and monotonous work.
what precisely do you think robots exist for?
We do not exist in a world with technology sufficient to entirely eliminate labor. Even highly automated industry like in the PRC, labor-power is still paramount for production. A transition to socialism can allow us to better direct production consciously, rather than letting the eldritch god capital decide everything based on profitability, but we will not be able to eliminate labor, only center it, rather than capital.
They don’t, not in the way you are implying
what are you on about? ever look at a modern factory? they’re filled with robots that do enough work to replace 10 people.
obviously under capitalism this work just goes into making rich people richer, which is why we need to get rid of capitalism so these fancy robots we’ve built can actually let us live chill lives with minimal required human labour.
In order to replace all work you would need generic purpose robots, hence my line about what you are implying.
Even with all the automation we have now, people still work.
If we pushed to fully automate everything that possibly can be automated, there wouldn’t be much work left. Jobs right now are just busywork.
The news drones on and on about labor shortages, but I’ve never seen a desperate employer. The trades say there’s shortages, but all the trades are flooded with apprentices, and then there’s pre-apprentices flooded in behind them. Office jobs have to sort through hundreds of applications for a single opening. Hell, even low wage jobs have huge labor pools ready to work, but the owners still find a way to nitpick. Things are horrifically upside down.
are you being intentionally obtuse? yes obviously we don’t have androids that can do ALL the work for us, but we have robots that can do a hell of a lot of work for us, and especially the laborious and monotonous work.
To pass butter.