• buttnugget@lemmy.world
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    Why is this sub committed to undoing all of the good work that was done on reddit? This should not be a screenshot.

  • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    Go read about the whites first contact with Polynesians, they literally stumbled on utopia and HATED it. They were FURIOUS these naked people surfed and sang and danced all day and farmed for about 15 seconds and had more food then they ever needed. They literally never heard about work, they had dance crew battles and picked their leaders by if they could do any cool tricks on the waves.

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    Just some important history, the 40 hour work week was developed as a labor concession in the automotive industry.

    Most workers rarely work only 40 hours, especially when you include the on-call time when employees are expected to respond to call messages and emails.

    Maybe we need to learn something from our grandparents and have another movement for 40-hour work weeks.

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      Lol. I had these guys beat in terms of hours, and their job was nowhere near as physical as mine was.

      Now I get to be a desk jockey, and it’s fucking sweet. Gonna milk it, because I put my hours in.

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        Milking the fuck out of mine. It’s not quite a usual “desk job” but i spend a lot of time sitting at a desk.

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        Thanks for having a sense of humour about the meme. I’m also a desk jockey. Be sure to stretch frequently and take care of your back! The tension has a way of sneaking up.

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        So how fucked are You? 40h is actually quite a lot for Europe. In Poland I work 40, in Ireland I worked 39 and in Denmark 37.

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          48 hrs a week contracted. That’s not counting the extra hours needed to keep on top of things. I try to limit myself to 1 hour overstaying at work …the amount of work piling up is getting uncontrollably out of hand since I started limiting myself to these hours. It used to be a routine of 2 hours of overstaying and 1 hour of logging in remotely before bed.

          If you want the full answer to the question of “how fucked are you”, then this work involves constant people “coming at me” (disgruntled and immature employees I’m managing and endless barrage of service user complaints) and needs to fit around 2 young children (1 has additional needs) and a wife who has a nightmare employer plus exams coming up; and a house that has an ever increasing list of maintenance tasks that have been pending. So overall, I think this describes my situation pretty accurately.

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    I hate the random black pixel in the down left corner. Go away, leave me alone!!!11!

  • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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    When the 40 hour workweek was invented, most workers had a wife at home to do chores. Now that women are working, we should all be working 20 hours a week.

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      That’s absolute bullshit. When the 40 hour workweek was “invented”, men were working 12 hour days in factories and their wives also worked. The wives sometimes worked in factories, often worked as domestic servants for richer people, or did home-based work. Home based work was often laundry or cooking for other people, not just their family. They’d sometimes also finish goods that were produced in a factory. Both partners were working 12+ days. And, while women did most of the home cooking and cleaning, it wasn’t as though that’s all they did.

      This system ended because the workers used their power and went on strike. The result was the Haymarket Affair and is the reason that most countries, other than the US, celebrate a worker’s day on May 1st. The striking workers were attacked and beaten by the cops, and then because a bomb was thrown at a cop, the leaders of an anarchist group were rounded up and hanged after show trials.

      Eventually the striking workers got what they were working for: an 8 hour day. But, it took decades after the Haymarket Affair for it to happen, and it wasn’t something that happened because everyone agreed it made sense. It was a long and bloody fight where that was the compromise that reduced the bloodshed.

      If you want a 20 hour work week, join a union, prepare to go on strike and prepare to be beaten by the cops.

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        The capitalist economy did fine in the 1950s when the women were so bored they had to put random things in gelatin. Nothing bad would happen if we switched to a 20 hour workweek.

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          The 1950s economy was the result of:

          1. The New Deal
          2. A world war which destroyed the infrastructure of every developed economy except for the US.

          The New Deal was only possible because of the Great Depression. Only that level of chaos was enough so that left-wing politicians could push through radical reforms that moved power from the elite to the workers. The reforms of the New Deal remained in place after the war, at least for a while.

          The second world war saw the destruction of the industrial capacity of the UK, Germany, France and the USSR. Meanwhile the only attack on the US was an attack on military targets at a Navy base in a distant territory.

          So, if you want an economy similar to the 1950s, arrange for a world war which somehow leaves the US unscathed but destroys every other similarly developed economy, then arrange for a great depression which destroys the economy to such an extent that radical reforms can be enacted to hand power to the average worker.

          Yes, of course nothing bad would happen if we switched to a 20 hour work week. But, the people with the power aren’t going to just allow that to happen. The 40 hour work week only happened with a massive series of strikes that were brutally put down by the cops. The change to a 20 hour week isn’t just going to happen because some workers think it would be cool.

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    Maybe I am getting old and I read somewhere that as you get older you tend to become more politically conservative or maybe I am a workaholic, but complaining about the 40 hour work week comes off to me as being entitled fucking cunts.

    If you don’t want to work 40 hours a week then don’t, give up some stuff in your life and you can do it, or don’t, but then stop whinging.

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    You didn’t end up here, but you are a product of this environment, and “you” couldn’t be born anywhere else.