• HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Both require no thinking yet believing you’re correct no matter the evidence to the contrary.

          • Proud Cascadian@lemmy.world
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            3 days ago

            I agree that people should at least check the box, but leftists who are fed up are not the entire reason for “what we have now”. A lack of mutual aid alongside politics is also the problem. There is also the whole problem of Suburbia and its culture: one of these problems is a fear of crime and “stranger danger” (this is only a problem when making sure you aren’t talking to a federal agent). There are people still watching the same cable television that the internet supposedly replaced wholesale, and most of it’s Fox News. These people completely outnumber the people who withhold their vote.

            I honestly just hate the United States. I cannot find any other country on Earth that represents such a grave threat to freedom, aside from Israel which is of course a client state. I’d get rid of the “world police” no matter what “terrorists” run rampant because they will never be as terroristic as the U.S. anyway. I will vote for harm reduction, but I really, really want the American Union to break up.

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              3 days ago

              I’m with you, but I will disagree about the suburbs. Born and bred in the ‘burbs, I live there now. We are not the majority, but there are plenty of progressive people not living in fear of the things you describe. That being said, I’m more and more fed up with this country everyday. Suburbs in another country continues to look more appealing.

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            3 days ago

            Lol no, billionaires and the complicity of both major US parties in the process of regulatory capture are why we have what we have now, although the political illiteracy and complacency of people like you is a significant factor in how that process was allowed to progress as far as it has

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              3 days ago

              The Biden administration did more for antitrust law than anyone in a generation. But by all means, ignore that because bOtH sIdEs

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                Cool story, unfortunately for you I was alive for his presidency and am entirely aware of all the ways in which he enthusiastically supported a status quo that enriched billionaires, fucked over the vast majority of americans, and killed countless innocent people around the world. You’re either completely clueless or a lying sack of shit, embarassing either way.

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                  3 days ago

                  Doing some good things while upholding the status quo

                  Literal fascism

                  You: They’re the same picture

                  Average ml take.

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                    3 days ago

                    “Yeah well maybe he supports the Palestinian genocide and every other aspect of our mass murdering foreign policy and our constantly expanding police state and mass incarceration and deportation and did fuck all to prevent the removal of abortion access when he had the chance and a laundry list of other things that our own government would accurately describe as crimes if any of our rivals did them but”

                    You stand for absolutely nothing, you are a spineless subhuman sack of shit, you deserve Trump and worse

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          3 days ago

          So if Harris won she would’ve deported all those people to El Salvador without due process?

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            3 days ago

            Probably not, she would have exhibited slightly more tact and decorum in defense of the status quo, and you would have been fine with it because you stand for absolutely nothing

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              3 days ago

              So how is “defense of the status quo instead of mass deporting” not “harm reduction”?

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                3 days ago

                There is no “instead” Biden deported and imprisoned a shitload of people, but you were fine with it because blue team

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                  Are you really trying to argue that what’s happening now was already happening under Biden? That ICE was already pulling up in unmarked vans and disappearing people with no criminal records, but people were fine with it “because blue team”?

                  Come on.

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                    What’s happening now is a faster, clumsier, less orderly version of what was happening before. The vans were marked and the ICE agents identified themselves, but yes actually people with no criminal records were being deported under Biden in similar numbers, and yes you were clearly fine with it

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      4 days ago

      The slogan was used in direct opposition against Trump and the republican party

      It’s reductionist to complain about the phrase in general because you’ve taken the slogan out of the context it was in. In an ideal scenario the US would have actual candidates that don’t want to dismantle democracy, then the slogan would make no sense. Like in Vermont, where Bernie Sanders offered an independent choice that actually believes in leftist democratic values.

      Unfortunately, when the choice is between fascism from Republicans or the status quo with Democrats, you best believe the US should vote blue no matter who, because the other option is infinitely worse.

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        3 days ago

        In an ideal scenario the US would have actual candidates that don’t want to dismantle democracy

        In an ideal scenario there would be no federal government and all states would be split apart.