• Syrc@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 days ago

    So how is “defense of the status quo instead of mass deporting” not “harm reduction”?

    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      4 days ago

      There is no “instead” Biden deported and imprisoned a shitload of people, but you were fine with it because blue team

      • Syrc@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 days ago

        Are you really trying to argue that what’s happening now was already happening under Biden? That ICE was already pulling up in unmarked vans and disappearing people with no criminal records, but people were fine with it “because blue team”?

        Come on.

        • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          4 days ago

          What’s happening now is a faster, clumsier, less orderly version of what was happening before. The vans were marked and the ICE agents identified themselves, but yes actually people with no criminal records were being deported under Biden in similar numbers, and yes you were clearly fine with it

          • Syrc@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 days ago

            Even assuming Biden actually deported legal immigrants like Trump is doing (which I haven’t found any proof of anywhere), just the simple fact that they were identifiable meant that we wouldn’t have the copycat phenomenon of people pretending to be ICE doing robberies and kidnappings in broad daylight. That’s already harm reduction.

            And anyways no, I still don’t believe that documented and legal immigrants without a criminal record were being deported under Biden and the “clarity” was the only difference. That’s a big claim to make without a source.