I agree that people should at least check the box, but leftists who are fed up are not the entire reason for “what we have now”. A lack of mutual aid alongside politics is also the problem. There is also the whole problem of Suburbia and its culture: one of these problems is a fear of crime and “stranger danger” (this is only a problem when making sure you aren’t talking to a federal agent). There are people still watching the same cable television that the internet supposedly replaced wholesale, and most of it’s Fox News. These people completely outnumber the people who withhold their vote.
I honestly just hate the United States. I cannot find any other country on Earth that represents such a grave threat to freedom, aside from Israel which is of course a client state. I’d get rid of the “world police” no matter what “terrorists” run rampant because they will never be as terroristic as the U.S. anyway. I will vote for harm reduction, but I really, really want the American Union to break up.
I’m with you, but I will disagree about the suburbs. Born and bred in the ‘burbs, I live there now. We are not the majority, but there are plenty of progressive people not living in fear of the things you describe. That being said, I’m more and more fed up with this country everyday. Suburbs in another country continues to look more appealing.
Lol no, billionaires and the complicity of both major US parties in the process of regulatory capture are why we have what we have now, although the political illiteracy and complacency of people like you is a significant factor in how that process was allowed to progress as far as it has
Cool story, unfortunately for you I was alive for his presidency and am entirely aware of all the ways in which he enthusiastically supported a status quo that enriched billionaires, fucked over the vast majority of americans, and killed countless innocent people around the world. You’re either completely clueless or a lying sack of shit, embarassing either way.
“Yeah well maybe he supports the Palestinian genocide and every other aspect of our mass murdering foreign policy and our constantly expanding police state and mass incarceration and deportation and did fuck all to prevent the removal of abortion access when he had the chance and a laundry list of other things that our own government would accurately describe as crimes if any of our rivals did them but”
You stand for absolutely nothing, you are a spineless subhuman sack of shit, you deserve Trump and worse
Outline the process by which we got anything other than kamala or Trump.
subhuman
Ooh, spicy. Why don’t you just do what you do for any genocide done by red fash and pretend it either didn’t happen or was a good thing? Just pretend Mao came back and that’s why millions have to starve and it becomes OK, because you can’t help but automatically lick authoritarian boots.
Sure as fuck not by voting lol, you’ll never get something other than a continuation of the status quo from engaging with a system designed specifically to maintain the status quo on its’ own terms. The obvious answer is violence, you could argue that a general strike might do the trick nonviolently, but I would correctly argue back that our government would definitely respond to a general strike with violence, at which point your options are reduced to either caving to the status quo or resisting it with violence, so the answer is still going to be violence whether we like it or not.
Mao made some terrible decisions that resulted in a lot of deaths, yes, but definitionally not a genocide no matter how much you’d like to pretend it was, no matter how much it would really help your argument, because words mean things. The fact that you have to twist definitions so drastically to have anything close to a leg to stand on should give you pause, make you consider the possibility that you’re wrong, but that would require self-awareness and humility and you have neither.
Probably not, she would have exhibited slightly more tact and decorum in defense of the status quo, and you would have been fine with it because you stand for absolutely nothing
Are you really trying to argue that what’s happening now was already happening under Biden? That ICE was already pulling up in unmarked vans and disappearing people with no criminal records, but people were fine with it “because blue team”?
What’s happening now is a faster, clumsier, less orderly version of what was happening before. The vans were marked and the ICE agents identified themselves, but yes actually people with no criminal records were being deported under Biden in similar numbers, and yes you were clearly fine with it
Even assuming Biden actually deported legal immigrants like Trump is doing (which I haven’t found any proof of anywhere), just the simple fact that they were identifiable meant that we wouldn’t have the copycat phenomenon of people pretending to be ICE doing robberies and kidnappings in broad daylight. That’s already harm reduction.
And anyways no, I still don’t believe that documented and legal immigrants without a criminal record were being deported under Biden and the “clarity” was the only difference. That’s a big claim to make without a source.
Dems are not harm reduction in any way
Congratulations, you are the reason we have what we have now.
I agree that people should at least check the box, but leftists who are fed up are not the entire reason for “what we have now”. A lack of mutual aid alongside politics is also the problem. There is also the whole problem of Suburbia and its culture: one of these problems is a fear of crime and “stranger danger” (this is only a problem when making sure you aren’t talking to a federal agent). There are people still watching the same cable television that the internet supposedly replaced wholesale, and most of it’s Fox News. These people completely outnumber the people who withhold their vote.
I honestly just hate the United States. I cannot find any other country on Earth that represents such a grave threat to freedom, aside from Israel which is of course a client state. I’d get rid of the “world police” no matter what “terrorists” run rampant because they will never be as terroristic as the U.S. anyway. I will vote for harm reduction, but I really, really want the American Union to break up.
I’m with you, but I will disagree about the suburbs. Born and bred in the ‘burbs, I live there now. We are not the majority, but there are plenty of progressive people not living in fear of the things you describe. That being said, I’m more and more fed up with this country everyday. Suburbs in another country continues to look more appealing.
Lol no, billionaires and the complicity of both major US parties in the process of regulatory capture are why we have what we have now, although the political illiteracy and complacency of people like you is a significant factor in how that process was allowed to progress as far as it has
The Biden administration did more for antitrust law than anyone in a generation. But by all means, ignore that because bOtH sIdEs
Cool story, unfortunately for you I was alive for his presidency and am entirely aware of all the ways in which he enthusiastically supported a status quo that enriched billionaires, fucked over the vast majority of americans, and killed countless innocent people around the world. You’re either completely clueless or a lying sack of shit, embarassing either way.
You: They’re the same picture
Average ml take.
“Yeah well maybe he supports the Palestinian genocide and every other aspect of our mass murdering foreign policy and our constantly expanding police state and mass incarceration and deportation and did fuck all to prevent the removal of abortion access when he had the chance and a laundry list of other things that our own government would accurately describe as crimes if any of our rivals did them but”
You stand for absolutely nothing, you are a spineless subhuman sack of shit, you deserve Trump and worse
Outline the process by which we got anything other than kamala or Trump.
Ooh, spicy. Why don’t you just do what you do for any genocide done by red fash and pretend it either didn’t happen or was a good thing? Just pretend Mao came back and that’s why millions have to starve and it becomes OK, because you can’t help but automatically lick authoritarian boots.
Sure as fuck not by voting lol, you’ll never get something other than a continuation of the status quo from engaging with a system designed specifically to maintain the status quo on its’ own terms. The obvious answer is violence, you could argue that a general strike might do the trick nonviolently, but I would correctly argue back that our government would definitely respond to a general strike with violence, at which point your options are reduced to either caving to the status quo or resisting it with violence, so the answer is still going to be violence whether we like it or not.
Mao made some terrible decisions that resulted in a lot of deaths, yes, but definitionally not a genocide no matter how much you’d like to pretend it was, no matter how much it would really help your argument, because words mean things. The fact that you have to twist definitions so drastically to have anything close to a leg to stand on should give you pause, make you consider the possibility that you’re wrong, but that would require self-awareness and humility and you have neither.
Truth.
So if Harris won she would’ve deported all those people to El Salvador without due process?
Probably not, she would have exhibited slightly more tact and decorum in defense of the status quo, and you would have been fine with it because you stand for absolutely nothing
So how is “defense of the status quo instead of mass deporting” not “harm reduction”?
There is no “instead” Biden deported and imprisoned a shitload of people, but you were fine with it because blue team
Are you really trying to argue that what’s happening now was already happening under Biden? That ICE was already pulling up in unmarked vans and disappearing people with no criminal records, but people were fine with it “because blue team”?
Come on.
What’s happening now is a faster, clumsier, less orderly version of what was happening before. The vans were marked and the ICE agents identified themselves, but yes actually people with no criminal records were being deported under Biden in similar numbers, and yes you were clearly fine with it
Even assuming Biden actually deported legal immigrants like Trump is doing (which I haven’t found any proof of anywhere), just the simple fact that they were identifiable meant that we wouldn’t have the copycat phenomenon of people pretending to be ICE doing robberies and kidnappings in broad daylight. That’s already harm reduction.
And anyways no, I still don’t believe that documented and legal immigrants without a criminal record were being deported under Biden and the “clarity” was the only difference. That’s a big claim to make without a source.
Like i said, you were fine with it