You don’t get into the DNC primary via petition, my guy. You ask the DNC to join and they give out invitations to the ones who can run on their ticket.
They didn’t expect him to win. He was the olive branch to people on the left in order to say “see? We had someone with more pro-social ideas and he wasn’t popular enough. Let’s try shifting further to the right and see if we get more votes that way.”
We had Jeremy Corbyn do that over here. Absolutely romped into the Labour leadership.
Whereupon he was demonised and demolished by the press, ably assisted by the centrists in the party who think that actually giving a shit about the people is far too hardline lefty. Which then gifted us another five years of Tory cunts in power, which The Centrists decried despite the fact that THEY FUCKING PUT THEM THERE.
Cunts.
Anyway, now we have pretty much the most centre right “leftwing” government we’ve ever had. And that includes the Blair years.
All of which is to say: I hope your man wins, but he’ll almost certainly be kneecapped by the Democrats because he runs the risk of costing them money.
They expect every candidate to have a chance of winning when they hold primaries. Bernie came somewhat close to beating HRC in 2016, if he had like 4 million more votes they wouldn’t have been able to do anything about stopping him from running the entire nation, unlikely that they would try.
DNC is the left party, the party of progress, now and decades prior.
Bernie came close while simultaneously getting sandbagged at every opportunity by the DNC. If he’d gotten the same kind of attention as Hillary, there’s a very good chance he would have won.
DNC is only the party of progress because there isn’t another viable party that’s better at it. It’s up to us to push them to the left, because they’re really bad at doing it themselves. NYC proved that it’s possible; I only hope it mobilizes the rest of the left-leaning populace to take similar action. Vote blue and do what you can locally to enact change.
I repeat, he did lose by over 3 Million Votes. Supposed, uncoroborated, sandbagging aside, Hillary was the more popular candidate.
You’re not pushing the party left by telling everyone they’re an unviable bunch of corporate shills, you’re just convincing people not to vote for them and letting Republicans win.
Okay so you’re saying the reason Hillary won 16 Million to 13 Million is because a couple of people behind closed doors said something kind of mean about him once? And how exactly did the millions of DNC voters hear about this and coordinate their votes accordingly, all secretively?
The party who taxes and audits the rich, the party who expands medical coverages, the party who removed money from politics until the conservative SCOTUS overturned the law with Citizens United decision, and the Party who hasn’t had more than 50 senators in the past 10 years while everything has gone to shit.
If we want change we should elect the DNC, and even more importantly remove every single Republican.
That’s fine because Mamdani isn’t asking for state funding, AFAIK. His $60M grocery store plan reallocates funding which would have gone to business subsidies for grocery stores, his other ideas cost an estimated $3M and $5M out of a $116Bn fiscal budget. Since Property Taxes are not handled by the state he doesn’t need permission to raise them on.
Making buses free might actually save them money from investigating unpaid tickets.
Two of the three key planks in his platform — making buses free to ride and providing universal free child care — would require action from the governor and state legislature, including raising taxes by billions of dollars. (The third, freezing the rent on rent-stabilized apartments, can be accomplished at the city level.)
I’m not sure how trustworthy that article is, since it also claims Cuomo comfortably won Brooklyn but the results for Brooklyn were Mamdani 48% to Cuomo 31%. Property taxes do not require state congress and the NYC budget is also separate from the state treasury. It does mention 3 dissenting state congressmen out of 150, the party breakdown being 83D 22R 45O.
The good news: Mr. Mamdani’s proposed tax hikes—along with such costly goals as fare-free buses, universal childcare and $70 billion in added borrowing to finance affordable housing—couldn’t be implemented without Albany’s cooperation. The bad news: Much of the Democrat-dominated state Legislature broadly embraces the same left-wing economic principles of Mr. Mamdani’s program.
Obvious Bias aside for a moment, it doesn’t really explain why and it also sort of defeats the initial point you were making by implying Mamandi has overwhelming support by the state congress. I’m not going to sit here and “read more theory” that you keep pulling out when you can’t even say in your own words why Mamdani needs permission from Albany or the governor.
I’ve been asking this for days and have not gotten a clear answer in what way is the DNC fighting the candidate put forth to the generals by the DNC?
He was put forth by the people not by DNC.
You don’t get into the DNC primary via petition, my guy. You ask the DNC to join and they give out invitations to the ones who can run on their ticket.
They didn’t expect him to win. He was the olive branch to people on the left in order to say “see? We had someone with more pro-social ideas and he wasn’t popular enough. Let’s try shifting further to the right and see if we get more votes that way.”
We had Jeremy Corbyn do that over here. Absolutely romped into the Labour leadership.
Whereupon he was demonised and demolished by the press, ably assisted by the centrists in the party who think that actually giving a shit about the people is far too hardline lefty. Which then gifted us another five years of Tory cunts in power, which The Centrists decried despite the fact that THEY FUCKING PUT THEM THERE.
Cunts.
Anyway, now we have pretty much the most centre right “leftwing” government we’ve ever had. And that includes the Blair years.
All of which is to say: I hope your man wins, but he’ll almost certainly be kneecapped by the Democrats because he runs the risk of costing them money.
They expect every candidate to have a chance of winning when they hold primaries. Bernie came somewhat close to beating HRC in 2016, if he had like 4 million more votes they wouldn’t have been able to do anything about stopping him from running the entire nation, unlikely that they would try.
DNC is the left party, the party of progress, now and decades prior.
Bernie came close while simultaneously getting sandbagged at every opportunity by the DNC. If he’d gotten the same kind of attention as Hillary, there’s a very good chance he would have won.
DNC is only the party of progress because there isn’t another viable party that’s better at it. It’s up to us to push them to the left, because they’re really bad at doing it themselves. NYC proved that it’s possible; I only hope it mobilizes the rest of the left-leaning populace to take similar action. Vote blue and do what you can locally to enact change.
I repeat, he did lose by over 3 Million Votes. Supposed, uncoroborated, sandbagging aside, Hillary was the more popular candidate.
You’re not pushing the party left by telling everyone they’re an unviable bunch of corporate shills, you’re just convincing people not to vote for them and letting Republicans win.
“Supposed” sandbagging… Right, OK fella.
Okay so you’re saying the reason Hillary won 16 Million to 13 Million is because a couple of people behind closed doors said something kind of mean about him once? And how exactly did the millions of DNC voters hear about this and coordinate their votes accordingly, all secretively?
The DNC is very much a conservative party. To claim the democratic party to be left leaning is a complete lack of awareness or it’s propaganda.
Ah yes thank you for bringing up that one policy. /s
Toothless neolibs and neocons aren’t leftist, this is not an opinion, learn to operate outside of the U.S.’s Overton window.
“Toothless” says the one who does nothing but throw insults in the face of an argument.
The party that has been running on “Everything is fine, status quo is great, we won’t change anything” is the party of progress?
The party who taxes and audits the rich, the party who expands medical coverages, the party who removed money from politics until the conservative SCOTUS overturned the law with Citizens United decision, and the Party who hasn’t had more than 50 senators in the past 10 years while everything has gone to shit.
If we want change we should elect the DNC, and even more importantly remove every single Republican.
Sounds like the DNC needs to do things that are actually popular with voters.
The democratic governor, for instance, has said she won’t fund Mamdani’s programs.
That’s fine because Mamdani isn’t asking for state funding, AFAIK. His $60M grocery store plan reallocates funding which would have gone to business subsidies for grocery stores, his other ideas cost an estimated $3M and $5M out of a $116Bn fiscal budget. Since Property Taxes are not handled by the state he doesn’t need permission to raise them on.
Making buses free might actually save them money from investigating unpaid tickets.
I would love what you’re saying to be true, but I don’t think it is:
I’m not sure how trustworthy that article is, since it also claims Cuomo comfortably won Brooklyn but the results for Brooklyn were Mamdani 48% to Cuomo 31%. Property taxes do not require state congress and the NYC budget is also separate from the state treasury. It does mention 3 dissenting state congressmen out of 150, the party breakdown being 83D 22R 45O.
More sources on the Albany point:
WJS:
Obvious Bias aside for a moment, it doesn’t really explain why and it also sort of defeats the initial point you were making by implying Mamandi has overwhelming support by the state congress. I’m not going to sit here and “read more theory” that you keep pulling out when you can’t even say in your own words why Mamdani needs permission from Albany or the governor.
I never implied that…? And this isn’t theory, these are news and opinion articles. I’m tired of your sealioning though, bye!
The article doesn’t say that. This is what it says:
You’re not doing the bare minimum to arrive at an accurate picture of things. This makes this discussion a waste of time.
For anyone who’s actually curious, this map shows the results for each election district.
Here you go: https://lemmy.ml/post/32872265
Ah yes, by the DNC you meant a current 3rd party who served one two year term over 15 years ago before being forced out for ethics violations.
It all makes sense now.
Here’s another one: https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/14/politics/andrew-cuomo-new-york-primary-mamdani
I’m sure I’ll be back next week with another.