• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    They expect every candidate to have a chance of winning when they hold primaries. Bernie came somewhat close to beating HRC in 2016, if he had like 4 million more votes they wouldn’t have been able to do anything about stopping him from running the entire nation, unlikely that they would try.

    DNC is the left party, the party of progress, now and decades prior.

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      6 hours ago

      The DNC is very much a conservative party. To claim the democratic party to be left leaning is a complete lack of awareness or it’s propaganda.

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          Toothless neolibs and neocons aren’t leftist, this is not an opinion, learn to operate outside of the U.S.’s Overton window.

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            6 hours ago

            “Toothless” says the one who does nothing but throw insults in the face of an argument.

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                4 hours ago

                lmao

                You’re insulting the DNC. You haven’t cited a single policy or vote or even quoted any statements out of context, you’re basically just trolling instead of any good faith attempt to turn anyone over to your side.

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                  You have cited a single policy or vote or even quoted any statements

                  Meanwhile, someone provides sources and you refused to read them. It looks like you just refuse to listen to anyone that doesn’t agree with you.

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                    Yeah, that’s what sources are for, vetting information. If your source is unreliable then you get called out for it.

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      Bernie came somewhat close to beating HRC in 2016

      Bernie came close while simultaneously getting sandbagged at every opportunity by the DNC. If he’d gotten the same kind of attention as Hillary, there’s a very good chance he would have won.

      DNC is only the party of progress because there isn’t another viable party that’s better at it. It’s up to us to push them to the left, because they’re really bad at doing it themselves. NYC proved that it’s possible; I only hope it mobilizes the rest of the left-leaning populace to take similar action. Vote blue and do what you can locally to enact change.

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        I repeat, he did lose by over 3 Million Votes. Supposed, uncoroborated, sandbagging aside, Hillary was the more popular candidate.

        You’re not pushing the party left by telling everyone they’re an unviable bunch of corporate shills, you’re just convincing people not to vote for them and letting Republicans win.

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            Okay so you’re saying the reason Hillary won 16 Million to 13 Million is because a couple of people behind closed doors said something kind of mean about him once? And how exactly did the millions of DNC voters hear about this and coordinate their votes accordingly, all secretively?

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              No, that’s not at all what I’m saying.

              I’m saying the DNC is supposed to be a neutral facilitator of primary elections, but were going out of their way to undermine the Sanders campaign by coordinating with donors and feeding stories and unflattering details of his campaign to reporters.

              Could the impact of that interference be measured by some quantity of votes? Decidedly not. But did it have some impact? Almost certainly.

              At the very least, the Sanders campaign was having to fight against the committee and put out fires they were starting, while they were supposed to be facilitating a ‘fair’ primary election. Even giving preferential treatment to one candidate over another calls into question the legitimacy of that primary.

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                The DNC is not a government entity, it is a private institution, it does not need to be impartial, but it’s election was an honest one which did not manipulate votes or prevent Bernie Sanders from running.

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      DNC is the left party, the party of progress, now and decades prior.

      The party that has been running on “Everything is fine, status quo is great, we won’t change anything” is the party of progress?

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        The party who taxes and audits the rich, the party who expands medical coverages, the party who removed money from politics until the conservative SCOTUS overturned the law with Citizens United decision, and the Party who hasn’t had more than 50 senators in the past 10 years while everything has gone to shit.

        If we want change we should elect the DNC, and even more importantly remove every single Republican.

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          5 hours ago

          the Party who hasn’t had more than 50 senators in the past 10

          If we want change we should elect the DNC

          Sounds like the DNC needs to do things that are actually popular with voters.