Bubba Copeland shot himself in front of police on Friday, days after he begged 1819 News not to expose his private life.
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I love what John Oliver said on his segment about I believe Lindsay Graham.
Paraphrasing, he could have helped usher in the change that would have made his lifestyle more acceptable and more inclusive. But he wanted power.
These people choose to be a Republican. They choose to associate with a party that is actively trying to eliminate the very people they are and the sad thing is that they think they are the exception. They think the party will accept them.
And the hard, harsh truth is that they are only accepted so long as it’s convenient. I think he knew this and that’s why he chose to end his life.
It’s sad that he felt he had to do that. But I’m not holding my breath for the GOP to say that they learned a lesson from it.
Being a mayor of a small town and being a US Senator or even House Rep are two very different things. It is very likely that, despite being Republican, he did nothing to further Republicanism with the power that he did have.
Most of the time, mayors really just do small town mayor shit like approving a tree to be cut down or asking the state for a road to be fixed. They’re not usually involved with politics in the way Lindsey fucking Graham is.
He also apparently did not have overt anti-LGBTQIA+ values, beyond being a member of the GOP.
Yes and (?) was never antisemitic, beyond being member of the nazi party. (???)
If you are part of a party that stands STAUNCHELY against queers, you don’t deserve solidarity for being queer.
You can blame that on the US’s bipartisan system rather than the multiparty system it is supposed to be.
What other option would he have, the democrats? What if there are things that they did he didn’t agree with either? 3rd party is out the window because it would take minimum 2 elections to get their candidate in office.
Oh no, poor guy had literally no choice but to participate in a corrupt system by going into politics and becoming a mayor 😭
Get the fuck outta here.
Ah yes, you shouldn’t go into politics to make the changes you would like to see because the “system is corrupt”
Man, imagine being that retarded. The forefathers would have never revolted against the British if that logic actually made any sense whatsoever.
The problem is that he joined the especially notoriously infamously corrupt and evil side, dumbass.
Whoops! It seems like you may of missed what I wrote, no worries though, I got you covered.
Ah yes, you shouldn’t go into politics to make the changes you would like to see because the “system is corrupt”
Man, imagine being that retarded. The forefathers would have never revolted against the British if that logic actually made any sense whatsoever.
Fighting evil with evil doesn’t make you a good guy. Don’t be evil, you can defeat fascists while still being a decent human being.
Plenty of options. Didn’t have to be a shaman, didn’t have to live in a sheit tier state, didn’t have to run for public office, didn’t have to support the GOP. He went up to the leopard and screamed “eat my face”.
I mean, he was 62 years old you know, not like he could just turn his life around on a dime given the position he was in.
The dude was not hurting anyone. He clearly wanted to help operate the city, you have zero chance of winning with the democratic party in the vast majority of deep south states. Being a part of a party does not mean you believe in every single view that someone in your party holds, why do you think half the GOP is trying to get rid of Trump?
And would you stop with this leopard eating shit? I have read it here like 40,000 times. Suicide isn’t a joke, this is borderline not even a story about politics FFS. Save it for actually funny shit.
Boy that leopard is getting fat. Must be from all the faces it is eating. He fed the leopard for fucking decades.
You really think his church gives a shit? I bet during their weekly pretend time this morning they were celebrating.
Did I say anything about a church?
Are you an actual human being? I don’t give a shit about the church, I don’t give a shit about religion in general at all actually.
The fact you mentioned that raises my suspicion that you are a bot or something
I am mentioning the church. He was a leader for a denomination of Christianity infamous for the degree of its anti-LGBT stances. Decades feeding the hate machine. And I bet you anything that today they those people who said a thousand good morning to him are happy that he killed himself.
The final unavoidable conclusion of Christianity is to kill its own.
Yeah that’s a fair point
Would you blame a secret jew for jojning yhe Nazi party if that was a way of keep away from a concentration camp?
i guess not, good point
Was this guy at threat for being queer in America?
Stop white washing this shithead. He was a horrible person who was perfectly fine persecuting others BUT THE FUCKING IMSTANT IT CAME BACK ON HIM HE OFFED HIMSELF.
THIS WAS NOT A GOOD PERSON, CLOSET LGBTQ OR NO.
You got a source for that, besides simply being a member of the GOP in s location where there is no plausible alternative?
There are plenty of Democrats in Alabama. He didn’t have to run for public office.
no plausible alternative?
Are you kidding me!? “He had to be part of the anti-LGBTQ party because of where he lived”. Fuck out of here with that nonsense. I deleted my longer comment, let me sum it to for you:
- He didn’t have to live in Alabama
- He didn’t have to be part of the anti-LGBTQ+ (or any) party
- He didn’t have have to run for political office
- He didn’t have to engage in crossdressing
If any of those conflict with each other, well; life is about choices. Anything less is cowardice.
Get a grip. I asked for a source that the person, who you all are celebrating the suicide of, was actually a terrible person or partook in the persecution of others.
That was the assertion that I was responding to, and none of that was mentioned in any source in this thread besides wild assumptions by people simply for being in the republican party in a small town.
None of those words backs up your assertion, which was that there was “no plausible alternative” to being a GOP politician in Alabama. You can’t defend it because it’s complete nonsense.
Also, I didn’t celebrate his death, and I haven’t seen anyone else do so either…
Meh sometimes people just hate someone for not understanding them. And that’s enough. You don’t always need to pretend to have a good reason for hating someone, you just decide and then one day someone asks you why, like asking about babies crying in Africa, people often prefer not to have their beliefs challenged or broken to pieces by any kind of paradigm shift
He stood at the pulpit that makes him party to the persecution of others.
This person partook in the persecution of others. proof? they were in the GOP. there’s your proof.
And nobody is celebrating suicide. This person is not a hero is all that is being said.
Is it implausible that perhaps this person wished to hide within the GOP to escape its suspicions about their personal life? A Democrat mayor in a deeply Republican area would attract a lot of distrust and hostility simply by virtue of being a Democrat. A Republican mayor, not so much.
Is every trans person morally obligated to leave every institution that persecutes them? Even when to do so would scrutiny?
You heard it here folks, association by organization means you did the same thing some other shitheads did.
The secretaries for concentration camps? They gassed the Jews themselves, might as well have anyways, based on that logic.
Let’s take it even further, all Germans are bad because of what Hitler did to the Jews, after all, they are ASSOCIATED with the SS, being in the same country and culture and all, they all obviously have symmetrical views because all people really believe the same thing even in a party such as the GOP.
(Don’t you dare try to pretend those analogies flew over your head, work with me here)
Grow up, it’s not about him “being a hero”, nobody here is claiming that. The fact you came to that conclusion somehow on your own is evidence enough that you are celebrating his death. Have some respect, it seems pretty clear to me that he had second thoughts atleast some point in his life about his political decisions, had no way out, and when someone threatened to take even that away, made the last mistake you can ever make on your own accord. Please have some respect just as you would wish for yourself.
Fuck off nazi apologist.
It isn’t binary
(Don’t you dare try to pretend those analogies flew over your head, work with me here)
lmao I loved this part.
You have a good point, I’m starting to think I was in a hateful mood yesterday. I still don’t think this person was a hero but it’s truly very sad that they had to hide this part of their life, and were so scared of the public’s opinion that they killed themselves.
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besides simply being a member of the GOP in s location where there is no plausible alternative
You know that democrats do live in Alabama, right?
You got a source for ur bullshit? No alternative?? Lmfao ok yeah right.
Source: rural Alabama and a basic understanding of political party distribution in the US
Yeah a 3rd grade understanding. Like there are no Dems in the south.
In most rural areas of the South, it’s a racial divide between which are Republican or Democrat. Where I’m from, a white person being a Democrat would be, and are, actively threatened and hurt if they voice their opinion (by white Republicans).
*She was a horrible person.
*SHE OFFED HERSELF.
ftfy
Cross dresser != Trans
She identified as trans and was offering advice on HRT on Reddit.
This person never called or asked anyone to call them she. What the fuck are u even talking about? Get a grip.
But the rest of the small minded fucks in his small minded town who were laughing and pointing? And the asshole who outed him? Now THAT’S a different story, and I hope their laughter becomes a curse to them.
How many of those are also hiding their sexuality/gender just because of the same reasons that you mentioned?
Im sorry for the guy that shot himself, but he was part of the problem. It doesn’t matter the reason why someone is a church goer, Trump supporter, one less of them is always good.
Also a pastor, “shot himself in front of police during a welfare check.” It also appears that his wife was aware and involved with the hobby (not with the suicide), presumably in a supporting way.
I may disagree very strongly with this guy’s politics, but fuck the assholes who make this shameful.
@Poutinetown quotes from the article:
… even though it does not appear [Copeland] had taken any public positions against LGBTQ issues that could be construed as hypocritical.
These are the assholes who make it shameful.
Leopard face eating moment
This is a rare example of the leopard eating its own face!
It’s not a “rare example”, it’s the whole point of the leopard-eating-face thing. People support a political party and then react with shock when the party carries through with its promises in a way that hurts them.
It’s not news when someone votes for the leopard and then sits back smugly while the leopard eats the faces of other people.
I’m referring specifically to the act of him killing himself.
Republicans have a track record of voting against their own interest and *shocked pikachu* oh no! These policies are hurting me??
This guy took it a step further by being the one to pull the trigger.
…if only that wasn’t rare. If our nation’s trash made a habit of taking itself out as this fucker did, a lot of problems would get fixed very quickly. The opposite is usually what happens - evil shits are like cockroaches.
Your comment here is seriously making me rethink ever partaking in political discussion, let me just wrap my head around this for a second;
So you think this guy deserved to kill himself or die because of some of his political beliefs? How are you better than they are exactly? Look at me, no tolerism bullshit or anything like that when I say this.
Nobody deserves to die because of social issues or image.
See, every time that objection pops up, it’s always wrapped up into “just because of political beliefs” or “a difference of opinion” like the core of the problem is a disagreement over spending a city’s budget on a new bridge vs a new rail station; or whether or not pineapple belongs on pizza.
This guy’s “political beliefs” is that life should be hell for a long list of out-groups. Working toward that goal makes him evil, and being evil means he should be removed from power by whatever means available. In this case, he did us all a favor by eating a bullet. Ideally he would have taken all this as a point of self reflection, realized the hypocrisy of his dilemma, and abandoned the evil shit to go on to advance policy that actually made his community a better place. Instead he decided to abandon his life. And in doing so, this world became a little less evil, which is a win for the rest of us.
Personally I’m over the sentiment that no one deserves to die. It keeps villains in power, which feeds into the suffering and deaths of everyone else. When one of those assholes decides to commit suicide for whatever reason, or fatally runs their car into a tree, or gets hit by a well-placed meteor, etc: the loss of evil is worth celebrating.
Sadly this is a prime example.
The blog reported that Copeland, a Republican, confirmed that the accounts were run by him, saying they were a “hobby” he used for “getting rid of stress.” 1819 News reported that Copeland asked them to not out him, but they did so anyway, even though it does not appear he had taken any public positions against LGBTQ issues that could be construed as hypocritical.
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'Ol Bubba knew the wolves would turn on him.
But anyway, what is with this. Is it that this secretive cross-dressing thing seems correlated with repressed sexual desires or what?
JCS covered that one Canadian colonel serial killer who would cross-dress, sneaking into women’s homes.
Then I just watched this 48 Hours case about a dad who killed his son after they found pictures of him cross-dressing and literally eating his own shit.
Wtf?
People tend to sexualize the taboo. In a society where gender is seen as set in stone and comes with a bunch of stupid bullshit like what clothes it’s socially acceptable to wear some people will sexualize violating the taboos
Hate is a strong emotion. Hatefucking is a real thing. I’m sure Pornhub has data showing an increase of searches for Middle Eastern people after 9/11.
Alright, not gonna lie that last one threw me for a loop.
Pretty sure it was the last part that caused him to do that, I think the gap between crossdressing and scatophagy (is that a word yet?) is pretty far.
Yeah I want a world where nobody is persecuted for this, even pieces of shit.
You’d think some empathy would be in order. However, judging from the comments made on the bird website, many people are actually proud of this happening.
This is tragic but I feel like shaking the people trying to shame or guilt the ones who outed and ridiculed the Mayor.
“Are you happy now?”
Yes, of course they are. The cruelty is the point.
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Could have just said he’s a conservative.
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Christianity once again demonstrates it’s outstanding moral virtues.
Could make the same comment about Islam and suicide bombers. As it’s easy to do with the two largest religions in the world to paint them with the same brush.
Yes and? You just told me that if I am complaining about one serial killer I could also complain about another
Not the case here. This person was posting photos of local minors to pornographic websites and writing sex fantasy fiction about local residents (including one where he stalks and murders a local businesswoman, seduces her husband, and steals her life).
I agree with what you’re going for here. It just doesn’t apply here. There’s a whole rabbit hole to go down before coming to any conclusions about this one.
Doubt.
Ok I’m just making it up.
Believing what you want to believe rather than what is actually real and happening is why the world is so frightening at the moment.
Enjoy your bubble.
I mean do you have any kind of reliable source? Because none of that stuff is in the article OP posted.
This comment section is hilarious. Some people are praising his suicide simply because he was a part of the republican party, while others are saying that “no one deserves being bullied for being trans” yet what everyone seems to miss is this guy was a grade A pervert who was posting pictures of real children in his transition fetish memes that he posted online. He also stalked a local business woman and wrote erotica about taking over her life and becoming her through hormones and surgery then murdering her and replacing her. A real woman btw.
So much cognitive dissonance in this thread and I’m here for it.
Read up what he did here https://1819news.com/news/item/to-say-i-was-a-stalker-would-be-a-bit-of-an-understatement-curvy-transgender-smiths-station-mayor-copeland-wrote-fiction-about-murdering-real-life-local-businesswoman-assuming-her-identity
You posted the same article multiple times in this thread. I don’t know that magazine but Wikipedia says about the source
1819 News is an American far-right[1] news website that focuses on the state of Alabama.
Aren’t there more trustworthy articles than a far right news site?
Yeah, it’s a right wing propaganda rag. I wouldn’t trust them reporting the weather without somehow blaming liberals and lgbtq.
The OP buried the lede intentionally or unintentionally. Dude was a grade A creeper and a psycho.
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I haven’t noticed a single person praising this persons death. It seems you really enjoy the website the news came from though. Another poster says they’re extreme right wing garbage. You also act as if you have a personal stake in the destruction of this persons reputation. Granted he had some immoral fantasies. He was definitely terrible and I’m not trying to defend him, but What’s your horse in this race?
You clearly did not look hard enough in this thread. Plenty of people say he got what he deserved for being a republican.
He was definitely terrible and I’m not trying to defend him, but What’s your horse in this race?
I have no horse in this race. Just discussing a piece of news on a discussion forum.
Right. As if pointing out obvious ignorance is all of a sudden a Personal thing. Good job, bro, I saw the value in your comment.
Discussion or debate is supposed to be the reason for this forum, not doxxing people.
Damn you really want everyone to shut up about this. It’s definitely relevant to bring up the fact that this dude made murder fantasy erotica as part of his grotesque fetish. I would wager that’s why he felt the need to kill himself, not because he was trans. It’s not doxxing to post the disgusting history of a sick person. The only thing even close to dox is his real name, which I think we can all agree doesn’t constitute as doxxing, especially if he’s a public figure.
He’s already dead, how is it relevant?
Because he was a public figure caught doing disgusting things? Are you really arguing that isn’t newsworthy?
Hardly. He was a mayor in bum fuck Alabama, fiction is fiction. Are we on thought crime now? I’m more worried about the kids actively being raped in church than something this deceased person has done. You seem to really think you have some sort of moral authority to pass judgement on people.
Dead POS. Good.
You probably shouldn’t read Steven King with that logic. Fiction is fiction. Unless you want to punish for a thoughtcrime.
He wrote it about a real woman in the area without her consent. You are being a sexual harassment apologist.
It is sexual harassment?
Yes it is. And everyone would agree it is if this person was not trans.
It’s not only a sexual harassment, but also a documented intention to kill. The guy deserves to be thrown in jail. But it worked out even better in the end.
What are you?
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because he holds public office and is posting pictures of children to porn sites and stalking local women? Do you not think public officials should have their disgusting misdeeds documented?
I think it’s worthwhile to question an unknown outlet. If it’s a tabloid level rag then perhaps I should doubt the pilling on, if any of the smear worthy stuff might be fabricated.
No matter the outlet, if the material is accurate, then yes it’s reasonable. However we always have to be wary of folks outright making up stuff.
You think this random conservative blog decided to write a whole fake erotic fan fiction? Which parts are you claiming to be false, they provide a lot of evidence.
I’m not claiming it to be true or false, just saying I understand why someone might sincerely ask for folks to share anything they might know about the outlet in general.
However, the stance of “well, you better have a lot of evidence to be skeptical of a random unkown outlet” seems to be setting oneself up to be a sucker to anyone from any side.
I think the issue is that the question doesn’t appear to have been asked earnestly. Preemptively answering your own question with “sounds like activism” communicates you have already formed an opinion. If you’re asking out of genuine interest, check your preconceived notions at the door and only ask the question. Just “what is this 1819 site? Are they known to be a reputable source and do they demonstrate bias?” Is a good way to ask it.
article doesn’t say anything about child porn. I’m thinking it’s a bullshit conservative “news” site muddying the waters.
I didn’t say it was child porn. Also there are archives out there of his accounts where he posted these pictures. But sure you can cover your ears and run away if you want.
and is posting pictures of children to porn sites
yes you did you lying POS
I think it happens a lot more than 1819 posts about it.
The Left:
- Slurs are bad
- Transphobia is bad
- Ableism is bad
- Restorative justice is better than retributive justice
- Move people left
- Disregard points 1-5
The right:
- Hate everything that isn’t them.
How convenient that everybody who disagrees with you is a lying cartoon.
Here’s somebody who disagrees with me, promoting ethnic cleansing.
Have fun no-true-scottsmanning them
TIL one thread you don’t like constitutes “The Left”.
If they are not your ally, go tell them that
Because it would make you feel better? Or because anybody who disagrees with you automatically faces a higher standard to prove their values than anybody who agrees with you?
Your talking point shifted from pretending leftists didn’t do this, to endorsing the leftist who did this.
Stfu with your dumbass propaganda.
I found a Leftist promoting ethnic cleansing right here.
What a waste. Regardless of his political affiliations, it’s sad that someone got bullied so hard that they decided to take their own life. It’s what we fight for in the LGBTQ community and beyond- so nobody feels that their life is over if discovered. Nor should it be a big deal, regardless. It’s what we’ve been fighting for since the Lavender Scare, and we’ll keep fighting for a general sense of normalcy for everyday Americans, regardless of political orientation.
I just imagine him being so conflicted about what he wanted for himself and what he thought reality would allow that killing himself made more sense then living ostracized. He must of truly believed the goodness of people is limited to what the majority find socially acceptable.
I recommend reading what this guy actually did, it’s pretty sick. https://1819news.com/news/item/to-say-i-was-a-stalker-would-be-a-bit-of-an-understatement-curvy-transgender-smiths-station-mayor-copeland-wrote-fiction-about-murdering-real-life-local-businesswoman-assuming-her-identity
I would say it’s pretty normal to be disgraced after doing some of the shit he did and getting exposed for it.
I think it’s a good reminder that one of Hitler’s closest “friends” and instrumental in the rise to power of the nazi party, was executed in the night of the Long knives. Ernst Rohm was publicly known to be gay. Due to this close relationship with Hitler, they determined it would weaken Hitler’s image.
Copeland certainly won’t be the last GOP casualty due to their bigoted policies.
Well, the fact that he was gay is perhaps a sidenote to the internal power struggle in the nazi Party, and the struggle between the SA and the SS. Hitler stayed in power by playing the people beneath him against each other, and Himmler was particularly ruthless in this regard to the very end of WW2.
Did not help Röhm that he was gay tho’
this wouldn’t be the first comment thread to speculate about the gayness of Nazis and Hitler, but i’m here for it
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I can’t speak to Copeland’s character, but regardless, I think you misunderstood what OP was saying. There was zero attack on Copeland. They were drawing a parallel between Hitler’s peeps being homophobic to the point that they executed a close ally for being gay so as not to ruin Hitler’s image, and the Republican party outing this man for cross dressing, which led to his suicide.
I hate that he felt the need to kill himself for wearing women’s clothing. But I also hate that he aligned himself with the party that’s all about hating on men wearing women’s clothing.
It was not because he was “wearing woman’s clothing” he wrote grotesque fanfiction about them using their real name about him stalking a local business woman and assuming her identity. He also posted pictures of kids to porn sites. He was not just some closted transgender person.
Is there any verification or evidence of this or is it simply more of the drag queens = pedophiles rhetoric?
I don’t really trust the veracity of the frothing right wing fanatic running that blog. Some independent verification would be helpful. I’m not going to look at Bubba’s writing personally, because if it is as fucked up as it sounds, I don’t need to add that horror show into my already depression-saturated brain.
you can verify it yourself. that reddit account has been archived in many places
Source please?
I’ll hold judgment until I get a second source.
Guys, he not only was a Republican, he was a Baptist preacher. He aligned himself with these two LGBTQ hater groups.
Maybe he joined the GOP and the Baptist denomination in an attempt to shield his lifestyle, but he willingly belonged to these two groups which both actively HATE LGBTQ and condemn his very lifestyle.
I have a lot of sympathy for people who feel they must disguise their true selves in order to protect themselves…and I respect that he tried to reach out and offer support to others online.
But I’m hearing some very disturbing ‘rumors’ that he posted hateful, stalking, character assassination of particular people online. And accusations of child porn.
I’m going to reserve my sympathy for him for now, until the whole truth is known.
I don’t know why people on here are grandstanding and white knighting for this douche, when so many people who are hurt by the GOP actually need our sympathy and compassion.
I have zero compassion or emotions for assholes that actively support hate organizations.
I feel like I can do both severely criticize his actions while defending his sexuality. I can also be understanding about his wanting to write erotica or crossdress but not necessarily the way he went about it.
I don’t have the patience for hateful bigots but there are aspects of this story that have historically been weaponized against us LGBT+ that need attention.
Except you can’t. Compassion and help is a finite resource in this world, because we have a finite amount of time and resources to help people. Evey second you waste it on assholes, you’re wasting your time on earth.
Except that I’m willing and able and I will. You don’t get to make decisions for me and I ask that you don’t try.
Fair enough, you do you.
Yes, it usually goes without saying.
I’ll let you in on a little secret, people are fucking dumb and just want something to be outraged about.
To me, all of this shows just how insidious the right wing conservative mindset is. It’s self destructive as well and societally crippling.
Baptists aren’t a group and don’t necessarily hate LGBTQ people. It’s a low-church movement/denomination within Christianity which is not defined at all by sexuality.
Some Baptist churches are even gay-affirming.
Of course they’re a group. Each church is comprised of a group of people with like beliefs.
And while there are Baptist churches that are more friendly to LGBTQ people, there’s a reason this man had to hide who he was from the people in his particular church.
That’s generally a thing with all churches, though.
Queer man surprised when anti-queer party he’s joined deems him a target. More non-news at 11.
I was thinking “Maybe he was more moderate or even liberal, but just knew there’s no getting elected without an ® in small town Alabama politics, and so ran as a Republican anyway.” The inverse happens in our town - we’re so blue, we occasionally get conservatives running as Democrats just to have a shot.
But then he ran for re-election in 2020 and used publicity of him and Trump together to get re-elected, which is farther than any actual moderate would go. So he’s either a massive hypocrite to the LGBT community or a massive hypocrite to the Conservative community, but either way, wasn’t super bright if he was posting all this publicly to Reddit as an elected figure. Shame he felt the need to shoot himself. Could have just moved to a blue state.
“But… I worship money, too!”
I hate Republicans for all they do and stand for, but nobody kills themselves just for fun. This guy was mentally ill (aside from being in the GOP) and got pushed over the brink by an asshole.
You don’t have to be sad about his death, but suicide is not normal and should never be encouraged like some here basically do.
While I agree that suicide should never ever ever be encouraged. I don’t think it’s necessarily a mental illness. This person was going to or already had lost everything they had ever known and worked for. They would have been a pariah in their town. They very likely would have been disowned by family and friends. It’s a little late in life to be starting all over somewhere new. I don’t think it’s crazy to contemplate unconventional exit strategies in that case.
Source: I am from small rural town Alabama.
I also think that we should remove the negative stigma behind suicide. After all, even bringing it up with a mental health professional can and will get you essentially arrested for 48 to 72 hours which discourages people from seeking help.
Also, can we just acknowledge how fucked up it is that this person felt they had no other way to deal with the situation, all because a group of people cared what clothes he wore in private.
I get that he decided to be part of this group, but even still… No one deserves that.
He could have moved to Oregon and a small town would have embraced him. sigh
Where as I agree with you. It’s also funny that you say that. I have some friends that moved from Oregon to Alabama because it’s so cheap to live here.
Ah, right. Oregon. Known for our high cost of living…
Well, I think part of it was where they lived too. They were living in hood river.
I hope they had good flood insurance
Yeah I asked he said they lived right on the Columbia river.
Also, I admit that I don’t know. That was just the reason they gave for moving here. For all I know they are hiding from a murder. Heh
Hey! One quick correction - I’m currently a therapy student. You are correct that if a therapist thinks you are in imminent danger of suicide, you can be detained for a period of time for your own safety. But we are taught only to do that if the danger is imminent. If you are just depressed and occasionally have suicidal ideation, but likely will not act on it immediately, a good therapist would not have you detained. That would be counterproductive.
Definitely just be super blunt and honest with your therapist. They are trained to handle things appropriately. You might hear about shitty therapists occasionally, but most of us are really well trained and really want the best for people.
“Definitely just be super blunt and honest with cops. They are trained to handle things appropriately. You might hear about shitty cops occasionally, but most of us are really well trained and really want the best for people.”
Who are you even trying to fool…
Therapists aren’t cops… 😅
Small mercies, huh.
Anyways, therapists aren’t your friends, kids. You shouldn’t trust them just because they’re therapists.
Could you explain? I’m legit confused because doctors have the same authority to detain someone on medical/mental grounds. Should you lie to doctors as well?
What’s confusing you?
When I go to doctors at least, it’s because of a physical injury. They’re not going to detain me and lock me away because my broken leg is a threat to me.
I didn’t say suicide always happens, because you are mentally ill. You are twisting my words to suit your argument, maybe unintentionally. There is good reasons why people want to die, e.g. when they suffer from an illness that is only going to cause pain and suffering and want to go on their own terms.
I am not and was never in his head, but I am quite positive he didn’t suddenly develop, let’s say relatively severe Alzheimer’s disease and wanted to die why he still had controll over his life.
And yes, suicide should be allowed in my opinion as well. You should be the one who decides when and how you go. I agree with you insofar.
Though mental health professionals don’t admit you against your will, because it is a fun joke to them, but because the vast majority people are mentally ill when they are contemplating suicide. It is not a normal thing to want to die.
I don’t know how things are where you live, but in my tiny spot of the world people usually don’t get admitted against their will because of suicidal tendencies, but chose to after they talked to a mental health professional. You usually only get admitted against your will here, when e.g. police, firefighters and/or medical services had to talk you down or save you from an attempted suicide attempt. If that is not the case in your small town in rural Alabama, then you should inform yourself as well as possible and try to teach others about a better alternative. Just my two cents on your comment.
I apologize if i misunderstood what your comment said it’s late and I’ve had , well, a day. I wasn’t trying to twist your words. So, I do apologize for that.
In my experience getting locked up for talking about suicide is subjective. What is serious to one mental health professional may not be serious to another. So, you never really know if you are crossing a line or not. I’ve always felt like it’s best to just avoid the subject all together. But in my experience it keeps me from building a relationship with the therapist. It says to me that there are things that are ok to talk about and things that are not.
No need to apologize. I assumed it was unintentionally. I sincerely hope things improve in general when it comes to mental health in society and in your life if things are not great.
Thank you.
Are you trying to make a case that suicide can be a well reasoned and appropriate solution?
Euthanasia might be appropriate in the context of some medical illnesses, but I think there’s very few people that would agree that suicide is a reasonable course of action when one encounters challenges like that described here.
I’ll just pull you up on some of the phrasing or terms you’ve used. I’m not trying to be an ass, I’m just concerned at the way you’re phrasing things and maybe you don’t realise?
He hasn’t “lost everything”. Sure I’m sure he’s lost his current position and standing with some political parties, but he still has whatever wealth he had, and given his experience can probably look forward to a lucrative career in some kind of political support role in another state.
A “pariah” is an outcast. He might have found it hard to make eye contact with some people at the shops but he wouldn’t have been banned from entering the city.
He may have been “disowned” but some of his friends, but not all of his friends and family.
It’s never too late to move and turn the page on a new chapter. He wouldn’t be “starting over” he would be making a change and continuing on.
Additionally, the term “crazy” doesn’t help anyone. People who are clinically depressed and suicidal are not “crazy”.
Words and phrasing is important and means things, whether you realise it or not your phrasing and framing is very catastrophic or black and white. Life happens in the grey.
Finally, you absolutely can talk to a mental health professional about thoughts of suicide, and they’re not going to lock you up. Usually the barrier beyond which someone needs to be detained is when they’re an “imminent risk to themselves or others”. There’s a whole spectrum from “wonders whether suicide is a solution” to “likely to harm themselves today” and in most of that spectrum locking someone up is not the right solution.
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you. I originally typed out a bunch of stuff, but I deleted it because I think it may break some TOS. But, suffice it to say that sometimes things go wrong and there is no coming back from it. I know because I’m there.
Also, did you go to 1819 news website? Because outing them for being trans isn’t the only thing they did. They also did an article about a fictional story they wrote where they killed a woman that exists in real life and took over her life.
Yeah posting pics of minors to porn sites is fucking terrible wtf
Oh shit! I didn’t know they did that too. I admit I didn’t read the whole article because it was long and from a shitty right wing news source. Damn.
Ok, I read it and I thought you meant naked pics. What they did was still not ok, but it’s better than I imagined.
Leopards…leopards.
So the man who dressed in women’s clothing supported the party that hates men who dress in woman’s clothing. Hard to have much empathy.
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Don’t know shit about this person, but 1819 news is a right wing shit hole. I wouldn’t trust these assholes to report the weather.
It’s just a regular doxing article. Showing the mayor’s cross dressing photos and all the related linked accounts. Completely fucked up without the “public official” exemption for privacy.
Fascism eats its own
The decade of the well-fed leopards
