After ICE raided a downtown Charlottesville courthouse and arrested two men, the federal agency is promising to prosecute the bystanders who challenged their authority.
Hold on, so let me get this straight, they’re being arrested for interfering with a kidnapping? Because the officers were in plain clothes, did not identify themselves, and one of them was wearing a balaclava. Mf, you could be anybody. Fuck that. There’s a number of states where, if you’re being stopped, the officer must produce some kind of proof of their status as a law enforcement officer if asked. Ofc, that was before we were in the dictatorship. Now, cops get the choice between identifying themselves and possibly getting their family members to launch a GoFundMe page.
It doesn’t matter who’s on the right side of the law. They don’t care if they lose this case.
They’re trying to make ordinary citizens fearful of speaking up or calling them out. When they come to take your neighbors away they want you to look the other way because you don’t want to get involved.
As is often the case, the behavior they are telling you you MUST not do, and they will NOT stand for and you definitely will suffer for it, is what they’re afraid of.
At some point the public opinion will hit critical mass at the street and individual level. Maybe (and maybe not). There is a reason they always want to get out of the area as soon as possible, and have stopped wearing identifiable uniforms.
I have no idea whether a group of ICE agents getting mobbed by an angry crowd that outnumbers them 20-to-1 will be a good thing or a bad thing, if things do reach a point where that happens. I legitimately don’t know. It’s definitely better than no one doing anything until they’ve escalated to filling up all these detention centers they’ve been building with people who mentioned “protest” on Facebook. Also, certainly, them threatening retaliation against people who are showing signs in that direction is a real and dangerous threat.
I’m just saying there is a reason they are calling out judges and bystanders as the threat that they MUST shut down. It’s because it is by far the most easy and reliable undoing to their power. It means a lot more than the Supreme Court, honestly, at the end of the day.
Some states might have it in law explicitly. Like some state constitutions duplicate first amendment protections. Or they might have a statewide identification system.
But a cop who doesn’t display a badge is not a cop - they are a criminal thug.
Any prosecutions should fail because there is no mens rea (intent) which is a requirement under criminal law (until the judicial branch is fully captured). The purpose right now is to send a signal that they are above the law and chill anyone attempting to stop them.
Hold on, so let me get this straight, they’re being arrested for interfering with a kidnapping? Because the officers were in plain clothes, did not identify themselves, and one of them was wearing a balaclava. Mf, you could be anybody. Fuck that. There’s a number of states where, if you’re being stopped, the officer must produce some kind of proof of their status as a law enforcement officer if asked. Ofc, that was before we were in the dictatorship. Now, cops get the choice between identifying themselves and possibly getting their family members to launch a GoFundMe page.
You’re looking at it the wrong way.
It doesn’t matter who’s on the right side of the law. They don’t care if they lose this case.
They’re trying to make ordinary citizens fearful of speaking up or calling them out. When they come to take your neighbors away they want you to look the other way because you don’t want to get involved.
Honestly, it’s horrifying.
As is often the case, the behavior they are telling you you MUST not do, and they will NOT stand for and you definitely will suffer for it, is what they’re afraid of.
At some point the public opinion will hit critical mass at the street and individual level. Maybe (and maybe not). There is a reason they always want to get out of the area as soon as possible, and have stopped wearing identifiable uniforms.
I have no idea whether a group of ICE agents getting mobbed by an angry crowd that outnumbers them 20-to-1 will be a good thing or a bad thing, if things do reach a point where that happens. I legitimately don’t know. It’s definitely better than no one doing anything until they’ve escalated to filling up all these detention centers they’ve been building with people who mentioned “protest” on Facebook. Also, certainly, them threatening retaliation against people who are showing signs in that direction is a real and dangerous threat.
I’m just saying there is a reason they are calling out judges and bystanders as the threat that they MUST shut down. It’s because it is by far the most easy and reliable undoing to their power. It means a lot more than the Supreme Court, honestly, at the end of the day.
They’re trying to normalize it. And they will succeed if it happens enough time and people don’t do anything against it.
Bro that’s ALL states
Thanks for the correction
Some states might have it in law explicitly. Like some state constitutions duplicate first amendment protections. Or they might have a statewide identification system.
But a cop who doesn’t display a badge is not a cop - they are a criminal thug.
Exactly. You stop being a cop the minute you break the law, or take the uniform off
By that criteria, all the murder, domestic violence, abuse of power, and obstruction of justice would indicate that there’s NO cops in the US… #ACAB
Exactly, and now the Executive is arresting judges who don’t comply
You think anyone’s coming to save us? Me neither.
Many places this would get you shot. Clips from Brazil come to mind as well as Texas and Florida… Or just like Philadelphia
Any prosecutions should fail because there is no mens rea (intent) which is a requirement under criminal law (until the judicial branch is fully captured). The purpose right now is to send a signal that they are above the law and chill anyone attempting to stop them.
Yep… you have it exactly right