This guy just keeps getting more and more wonderful ❤️
That’s not what the decision said, but JK and their ilk are trying to push it as that.
Their decision is limited to what they believe was meant in the Equality Act 2010. It’s just them indicating what a law meant originally.
A law that was written by people who didn’t know better.
Now we know better, as the science is undeniable, but what we know now doesn’t change what the law meant. That’s why what the UK needs to do now is change the law to properly match science.Rowling and other flavors of transfobes want to muddle the waters and act as if everything was set in stone, but it isn’t.
There have been amendments to the Equality act before, the latest in in 2023 and 2024, they can do more.https://www.legislation.gov.uk/primary+secondary?title=Equality+Act+2010+amendment
Do not play into their game. Instead, push for change.
And that is why (along with being an amazing actor) that he is the favorite
Does anyone want anything to do with this?
Well wasn’t going to anyways because Rowling is a horrible person but now I’ll double down in not watching it.
Don’t watch it, twice! Three times even!
I’m way ahead of this because I absolutely HATE the originals because of how often they play them on TV. The transphobic writer of the original wanting to do a do-over most likely because the original cast spoke out against her is also real atrocious as well.
The best writers can do is take creative control from her and add things that will show her up, like what they did in the latest videogame, and add transgender characters and actors.
Wait that’s why they’re doing this? What a clown she is.
she wanted to rewrite the characthers, probably to her “terf beliefs” and people already indicated in the past her books were already what she currently believes in, just very subtle.
Oh God… She’s absolutely going to create a monster that pretends to be a human as some kind of lazy “Trans Bad” parable…
This is going to be the fucking Heathers Reboot all over again
No idea if it’s true, but it’s a rumor I’ve heard that sounds plausible enough. Can’t speak for all the cast, but I’m fairly certain the main trio have spoken up against her, though.
she probably want different actors, or rewriting to make it look like they cant question her terf. she will be hardpressed to find someone who is an actor and is a terf like her, those actors have largely been expelled from hollywood, and only making shitty christian or anti-woke movies.
You don’t need to tell me twice. I only have nostalgia for the original Harry Potter movies and games because it has a lot of super popular British actors, and I was about 6-years-old when they came out.
I have no nostalgia for the books, and I have no interest in watching the same story again but HBO-ified.
I am no literature snob but I thought the first few books were good at the time for YA fiction. I still have the full set on my shelves and would be overjoyed if my kids read any novels, even imperfect ones.
People have nit picked JKs works to death and yes, there are problems. Half the stuff I was reading and watching as a kid was far, far worse. Like I was reading stuff that on reflection was clearly written by very far right authors, pedos etc as well as stuff that went way in other directions. I get why people boycott shit like that but I think its probably good to be exposed to some other points of view, even ones you vehemently reject.
People should be supporting new authors and new stories and stop throwing money at tired old corporate franchises. And that goes for the lazy Disney shit as well and all the Hollywood remakes. Unfortunately we have all been squeezed economically so there is fuck all money left to buy media and we are being squeezed for attention so nobody is taking time to read novels or listen to albums. The culture wars are certainly very significant (as a straight white male I know I have blind spots here), particularly for minorities with a lot at stake. But I feel the real enemy is the death of individual economic freedom and free time. Do we really need another big streaming series that brings nothing new to our lives and exists only to enhance shareholder value?
Not to ruin something you like, but you might enjoy reading the Worst Witch series, which Joanne copied for her early books.
I am an old man so I don’t read much kid’s/YA fiction and I wasn’t ever a huge HP fan. I tried to watch a tv adaption of WW with my daughter and we didn’t get past the first episode for some reason. We do like a lot of other witchy fiction though. I am hoping the Witchhat Atelier anime is high quality and doesn’t have creepy fan service. That had a really interesting magic system.
JKs works are full of tropes as is most fiction and it clearly isn’t great literature but I am not persuaded by accusations of plagiarism. Every Tarantino movie rips off other movies. The Dollars trilogy was clearly a retelling of Kurosawa samurai movies.
I don’t want to praise JK given her open hostility to the community here but the cross over appeal of her works was a cultural phenomenal at the time. I understand why many people are motivated to rip her work and legacy to shreds. She has very much earned peoples disrespect. As someone who is not targeted by her hateful views I feel detached enough to reject JK as a person without completely dismissing her works and cultural impact. Yeah, that’s some privilege at work but we are who we are. I am never going to have the same awareness or sensitivity about lack of representation, stereotypes etc in her writing.
There’s a huge difference between “homage” and “copying.” For example, Rowling references many legendary myths, like the Nicholas Flamel and the Philosopher’s Stone. That’s a reference, and while it’s not original, it’s not so much stealing as using the existing tapestry.
The problem is not that she used existing concepts and tropes, but that she only used existing concepts and tropes. There literally isn’t a single original concept in any of the books, and the source material is usually (but not always) better. It’s like somebody made artwork out of clip art and photographs of famous paintings. And that’s fine, but it’s not creative or even well-crafted.
The dialogue is distractingly bad, the fantasy elements are disjointed and inconsistent, the mysteries are either obviously telegraphed or non-sequitur deus ex magicka that erase all tension or intrigue.
Is an Oreo cookie a good cookie? It’s very popular, and many people love them. It’s a knock off of Hydrox, of course, but that’s not why it’s not a good cookie. The cream filling is waxy and cloying, the cookies are cocoa-adjacent and stale, and they are mass produced by a company that is deforesting the planet and relying on child slaves. But they taste good dunked in milk. I like them. And that’s OK. Not everything has to be the best possible version of what it could, or shoul, be.
But if the inventor of the Oreo was running around going “I’m the best baker in the world because I came up with the Oreo, and also disabled people should be euthanized,” we can say that this hypothetical person sucks at both being a person and at baking cookies. The former is obviously worse than the latter, but then you have defenders saying “yes, OK, this person may not be a good person, but what they created is great.” No. What they created is popular but that doesn’t make it good.
I tried to read Twilight on a dare once. I dare anyone to suggest JK’s writing is worse than Stephenie Meyer. A lot of popular fantasy and YA isn’t much better than fan fiction. Hunger Games feels even more derivative in many ways but I don’t know if that hurts it.
I agree HP isn’t great art. I read the books once when they came out and that was enough for me. It was a genuine cultural phenomenon though. In the late 90s. early 2000s, before iPhone, Facebook, Youtube it was just some pop culture that filled in the many hours of analog leisure time. It brought joy to a lot of people and relieved some boredom for others. The series had good and bad. The good was the accessibility and interest it generated in reading for a relatively wide audience. Given JK’s current reputation as a person I think it is too easy to dwell on the bad and completely ignore the rest. It is reasonable to cease supporting the HP franchise though. Whatever its merits it had run its course a long time ago.
Some people really like Twilight – maybe you are not the target demographic.
I really liked the first 4 Harry Potter books as a kid. I don’t really agree with the criticism above. I thought it was cool to read about this little boy like me discovering magic and exploring a cool castle and fighting dark wizards.
There is a lot of criticism I agree with – like isn’t it weird that Harry’s magic society is a capitalist paradise where he buys wands and his poor best friend spends their lottery windfall on a vacation so they must not be that poor, and away way how can you have poverty in a post-scarcity magical society?
But on the other hand it was so relatable to see Harry go on shopping trips because that’s what I was doing in the 90s/2000s, and having feelings about how the rich kid’s dad always paid for him to have cool toys like a nimbus 2001…
twilight target demographic were young female teens,
Way ahead of you
I’m kind of the opinion that Harry Potter should have just ended with the deathly hallows book and 2 movies.
you drag out and milk an IP for too long and you just become star wars. and that isnt a compliment.
It seems like Rowling has been pushing for the series to be made because she doesn’t like the OG movie cast members for calling her out on her bigotry. Anytime Radcliffe or Watson tweet in support of humanity, Rowling gets all twisty-knickered and pouty because people still call them Harry Potter and Hermione.
But making something new comes with the risk of it not working, much easier to just keep milking the same thing infinitely.
But the line must go up!
This sucks. I mean, I read Harry Potter as an adult, and still loved the stories, even if some parts were problematic (Cho Chang? The Irish kid blows stuff up? REALLY?). But I refuse to give that woman any of my money to do more evil with.
OK let me defend Cho Chang specifically. Qiū Cháng is a perfectly valid chinese name. It is pronounced “Cho Chang.” Cho would not be standard (pinyin), but Chinese people historically have not always use Pinyin to transliterate their names. (And I assume a wizard might not use muggle pinyin.)
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Harry Potter is one of the few IP’s that I 100% pirate guilt-free. In many cases, I use piracy to “try out” things before I buy them. For instance, I have the *arr stack running on my Jellyfin server, but most of the media on it is from my old DVD/Blu-ray collection. I have a few pirated games, but end up buying most of them if I enjoy them.
But not with Harry Potter. That shit gets pirated and stays pirated. I have the e-books and movies torrented, and will never spend a dime on them. I’ll never buy anything with a Hogwarts house on it. I’ll never stream any of the movies on Max. As far as capitalism is concerned, I have a full Harry Potter blackout.
Might be better to just let it go entirely.
don’t forget the white washing of lavender brown
What was wrong with cho chang?
it sounds like CHING CHONG, just reworded to make it sound like its not offensive. theres also the issue her labeling goblins as bankers, aka greedy jews, by nature and lore goblins are greedy.
I can get Irish people blowing things up as problematic, but surely cho Chang and the goblins are people just trying to make problems out of nothing?
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it just follows a trend of jkr using really shitty stereotypical names and sometimes just using down right offensive names. the only Asian character is cho chang, the only black character is literally named kingsley shacklebolt, etc. in Hogwarts legacy they named the first trans women in the series sirona ryan.
TBH the magic system seems low-effort too. You need a wand and pseudo-Latin, but neither are strictly necessary?
no complex spell casting with rare ingredients, like some other shows that uses magic, kinda like SCARLETS witches no-words spellcasting , yea because its low effort cuts corners.
Jfc those are all so fucking racist holy shit
Dafuq
My brain right now.
The Indian chicks being fucking patels.
IMO she’s already rich, and more of your money goes to an evil multi-billion dollar corporation than to her. If you enjoy the world fuck it, enjoy the shows, have, books, etc… There is no ethical consumption under capitalism and we’re in dark times. You need to covet the things that bring you joy.
Side note: She plagiarized most of the first book from Anthony Horowitz’s “Groomsham Grange”. I understand there’s a lot of books about magical schools but seriously if you read them back to back it’s clear. This isn’t important to the conversation other than to supply another reason to hate the bitch.
Edit: you can’t boycott someone who’s already rich off selling the IP. Be mad as you want, people aren’t enabling her by purchasing content made by freaking Warner Brothers. She already got her bag.
No ethical consumption means: it’s hard to arrange for there to be clear alignment in people to boycott a particular entity, meaning many things that ought to go boycotted don’t. Therefore, when such a heinous person as Rowling or Musk arises that we can cohesively land a boycott, we ought to take advantage of it.
You can’t boycott Rowlings at this point though, she’s made her fortune off the IP already. You’re essentially virtue signaling.
Musk on the other hand has most his wealth tied to the stock of his company. They aren’t remotely similar.
Remember family guys skits of jk Rowling, they kinda predicted her current behavior, one of them was Peter "reminiscing "now problematic jk Rowling writing, and the other
https://www.tiktok.com/@stewiesdomain/video/7195031901214723330
Probably this right here is the second one?
https://www.offtiktok.com/post/1758 non tiktok link
I love Pedro Pascal.
So many queers grew up on Harry Potter. If you still cherish the series from before the author apparently had a stroke, and can’t give it up, you can at least do society a favour by sailing the high seas (pirate it).
I wasn’t gonna watch it anyways but if Pedro says don’t, I sure as heck ain’t!
I’m gonna not watch it even harder!
more like Bae-dro Pascal amirite
daddy pascal
Papi Pascal
Joanne’s really milking this cash cow for all it’s worth, and then some. Guess that’s your only option when you’re a one-hit wonder, though. Must not have stumbled across any new content she’s interested in plagiarizing.
She’s a terrible person, but saying she’s a one-hit wonder is unfair. Here’s a list of famous and acclaimed authors who only wrote one novel. And she wrote several, even if all in the same series. Criticize for for her true faults: being a hateful hag that makes the world a worse place and isn’t worth the O2 she consumes.
I don’t think the existence of other one-hit wonders affects her status as one-hit wonder, but I’ll accept the argument that she wrote ~7 popular books.
one-hit wonder,
Yeah, no kidding, I had tried everything else she did before she started getting really noisy, none of it was remotely interesting.
Stopped me from buying the books for my kids quickly enough, though.
I mean, you could tell the point in book 4 where they said “Fuck it, bring in the ghost writers”.
I doubt she’s probably written anything in 30 years that wasn’t drunkenly pounded out on Twitter
Makes sense, since I think it’s a lot better than the previous books.
You say that like anyone else wouldn’t. If life gives you a golden cow, milk the shit out of it. Lol
Let’s focus on her being a terrible person instead of making up nonsense reasons to further dislike her. There’s no need.
No, I think most people wouldn’t. Most people would be happy with literally becoming a fucking billionaire, and would be satisfied at that point.
I don’t know any billionaires myself, but judging from what I read and see online that is not what people do when they literally become a billionaire.
I think most billionaires are not very visible.
Yeah I guess it’s one of those things, where most people would be satisfied with becoming a billionaire, but generally, the type of people able to become a billionaire, are terrible people that wouldn’t be satisfied with becoming a billionaire.
TIL People who would be satisfied with being a billionaire feel satisfied long before they actually become a billionaire.
Money has high diminishing returns on happiness long before a billion. It wouldn’t be surprising if literally nobody was satisfied by crossing 1,000,000,000. Some people will never be satisfied and they’re the only ones who would keep trying.
Sounds… terribly logical.
HBO previously did a adaption of The Casually Vacancy. I never watched it but I read the book which is terrible.
Oh, what did you find terrible about the book? I thought it was sad but written with a lot of empathy. I liked the gray characters. It was even worse for me to realize what JKR was like after reading this book that seemed so right to me. But maybe I overlooked something.
The dialogue.
CouLd you point me to what original she plagiarized? I need some light reading material and this sounds promising.
Here is a pretty decent list: https://elftor.medium.com/harry-potter-and-the-possible-plagiarism-of-one-j-rowling-c19f1b05595c
I’m not a fan of Harry Potter, and don’t like Rowling, but I read that whole damn essay and was not at all convinced. Half the examples could be said to be plagiarising each other by the standard they’re using. They say at the start the coincidences are too strong to be attributed to tropes, but I really disagree with that. Almost everything they list are common tropes, many even outside magical wizard settings. Mean adoptive family? Did she also plagiarise Cinderella?
Sure, her books generally aren’t original themes, but to say they’re so similar that they are direct plagiarism is a real stretch in my opinion. Especially when you have to list like 30 books that have one or two things in common each, and mostly in a general sense.
Exactly. It shouldn’t be considered a crime to use and build on eternal tropes. That’s what culture is about. The terrible things about JKR lie elsewhere.
The first two or three books felt far more like a Roald Dahl novel than any standard issue YA novel.
She’s clearly been influenced by other children’s books. But yeah, so much of the “Rowling plagiarized!” critique boils down to how bland and generic the story was.
I never thought she was a plagiarist, just a hack.
I think they’re referring to A Wizard of Earthsea? It’s been on my reading list for a few years now, but I still haven’t gotten around to it.
That’s not really similar but i recommend reading it. I loved it as a child
And especially “the worst witch” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Worst_Witch?wprov=sfla1
