Seriously. It was a failure of Intel sharing that would have always happened. Plus, the first WTC attack took place in 1993 while Clinton was in office. Gore just being there wouldn’t have stopped that.
If anything, Gore winning would have 100% prevented any chance of a President Obama happening. I know which one I would have rather had.
Don’t get me wrong, Obama spoke to my generation. The zeitgeist of the late 2000s. But uh, if you’re asking me if I want “Guy in 2008 who tries not to step on toes but is obstructed throughout his entire administration by conservative intransigence and an inability to bypass it” or “Guy in 2000 who WON’T start an unjustified war which led to the deaths of thousands of Iraqis and Americans, crater the national budget, and inflame fascist and racist sentiment in the US”, I, uh, I’m gonna go with the latter. Penny of preventing Bush is worth a pound of cure, and all that.
Further, I think while the GOP would have been follow up to Gore, there’s a good chance we would have gotten McCain, which is pretty good as far as the GOP goes. Then decent chance you might have still had Obama for, say, 2016. We almost certainly wouldn’t have seen Trump, since Obama’s delay would avoid petty Donald from going nuts over a non white president roasting him. In a public event.
There’s just so many specific things that went wrong that credibly wouldn’t have followed a Gore victory.
We almost certainly wouldn’t have seen Trump, since Obama’s delay would avoid pretty Donald from going nuts over a non white president roasting him. In a public event.
As narrative and cinematic as the idea is, I don’t actually think the mockery was core to the whole issue. He had run for president previously, and the only reason he got roasted to begin with was because he was performing public verbal defecation through his puckered asshole mouth with the whole “OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE” thing.
As an idiotic narcissist who saw his inner racism increasingly reflected in the open rhetoric of the conservative party, he was always going to keep trying. And it’s to the GOP’s shame (insofar as they’re capable of such a thing) that they nominated him; and America’s shame that we elected him twice.
But yes, a Gore presidency may have averted all of… this.
Fair. I would assume Gore would have ended up a 1-term president is the thing, and he would have absolutely been pushed into war in Afghanistan. remember who was VP when the US entered the Balkan war. Sure, for good reasons, but the precedent was set. But certainly not Iraq, we can agree on that. And that’s like $22 trillion of taxpayer money back.
If anything, Gore winning would have 100% prevented any chance of a President Obama happening.
President Obama not happening means him not roasting Trump at the 2011 correspondents dinner and Trump not deciding to run for president out of sheer humiliation, narcissism, spite, and stupidity, though.
Without that he’d been happy staying with his bankrupt casinos and TV gigs.
Between that and Gore actually doing something against climate change it’d probably have been a net positive.
Saw a fair argument that 911 might not have happened if Florida has been settled sooner, even if it were still a bush victory.
Evidently party of the dysfunction and delay with intelligence agencies was due to a somewhat botched transition due to the uncertainty. Maybe they still would have missed it, but there’s at least a reasonable chance it would have been caught.
Seriously. It was a failure of Intel sharing that would have always happened. Plus, the first WTC attack took place in 1993 while Clinton was in office. Gore just being there wouldn’t have stopped that.
If anything, Gore winning would have 100% prevented any chance of a President Obama happening. I know which one I would have rather had.
The one that would have actually set up the much needed protections against global warming instead of the milquetoast middle of the road guy?
(contrarian for the sake of it, not quite my exact view)
Gore?
Don’t get me wrong, Obama spoke to my generation. The zeitgeist of the late 2000s. But uh, if you’re asking me if I want “Guy in 2008 who tries not to step on toes but is obstructed throughout his entire administration by conservative intransigence and an inability to bypass it” or “Guy in 2000 who WON’T start an unjustified war which led to the deaths of thousands of Iraqis and Americans, crater the national budget, and inflame fascist and racist sentiment in the US”, I, uh, I’m gonna go with the latter. Penny of preventing Bush is worth a pound of cure, and all that.
Further, I think while the GOP would have been follow up to Gore, there’s a good chance we would have gotten McCain, which is pretty good as far as the GOP goes. Then decent chance you might have still had Obama for, say, 2016. We almost certainly wouldn’t have seen Trump, since Obama’s delay would avoid petty Donald from going nuts over a non white president roasting him. In a public event.
There’s just so many specific things that went wrong that credibly wouldn’t have followed a Gore victory.
As narrative and cinematic as the idea is, I don’t actually think the mockery was core to the whole issue. He had run for president previously, and the only reason he got roasted to begin with was because he was performing public verbal defecation through his puckered asshole mouth with the whole “OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE” thing.
As an idiotic narcissist who saw his inner racism increasingly reflected in the open rhetoric of the conservative party, he was always going to keep trying. And it’s to the GOP’s shame (insofar as they’re capable of such a thing) that they nominated him; and America’s shame that we elected him twice.
But yes, a Gore presidency may have averted all of… this.
Fair. I would assume Gore would have ended up a 1-term president is the thing, and he would have absolutely been pushed into war in Afghanistan. remember who was VP when the US entered the Balkan war. Sure, for good reasons, but the precedent was set. But certainly not Iraq, we can agree on that. And that’s like $22 trillion of taxpayer money back.
Without the Iraq diversion Afghanistan could have ended very differently.
President Obama not happening means him not roasting Trump at the 2011 correspondents dinner and Trump not deciding to run for president out of sheer humiliation, narcissism, spite, and stupidity, though.
Without that he’d been happy staying with his bankrupt casinos and TV gigs.
Between that and Gore actually doing something against climate change it’d probably have been a net positive.
He’s always had an interest, and had run before. And Putin would still want him as a puppet.
It’s more likely than not that he would have run anyway. Maybe not. He is too fucking old.
Same. Sure would be nice to have climate change actually solved. Not to mention abundant green energy.
Lol, as if the inevitable 9/11 wouldn’t have derailed that anyway.
Good chance 9/11 wouldn’t happen. And if it did, I doubt Gore would drop his baby of climate change.
Saw a fair argument that 911 might not have happened if Florida has been settled sooner, even if it were still a bush victory.
Evidently party of the dysfunction and delay with intelligence agencies was due to a somewhat botched transition due to the uncertainty. Maybe they still would have missed it, but there’s at least a reasonable chance it would have been caught.
Eh, not that we’ll ever know, but it’s not like there would have been some magic to make government disfunction stop.