Whatever generation it is, it will eventually die out.

If they did that, the entire problem would not exist. But they clearly do.

It depends on the definition of discrimination. Discrimination can be a power thing, in which case it cannot be, since women do not hold a social position of power that is able to oppress men in any society. If you define it as a thing of “being mean to one another individually”, sure; but who talks about that right now?

Ah there the mask goes off. Now women fighting sexism are “playing the victim card”. Right out of the neo-nazi playbook. George Floyd probably also deserved it, the suffragettes were whiny bitches, blah blah blah. Christ, I can’t wait for your generation to die out.

And how does that “help” look like? Praising men again (very rare), making them sleep soundly knowing that the world revolves around them once more? All of the gender-specific problems men face according to the post and in society as a whole are created by men. Hint: the people saying “bro you go to therapy? lol u gay? fgt” are not women.

Of course it doesn’t, because it’s easy to be “colorblind” if you are on the top of the ladder anyway and literally don’t need to think about gender at all, because it simply never impacts you in any meaningful way.

It’s a nice life on top of the ivory tower, judging the rabble.

Look up the difference between equality and equity in a dictionary. I pointed out that kicking down on a mostly oppressed minority is bad, and that kicking upwards at an established class of mostly oppressors is excusable due to context.

People like you always want to rip things from the context because pretending that women and men are entirely “equal game” obscures their power in the discourse, makes it easier to silence them.

The present had been judging a lot of righteous people. Alan Turing was killed for being gay. History absolved him. I am also a guy, by the way, if you care…

The comments and upvote/downvote ratios say otherwise. The entire thread is made to concern troll. It’s like going to a BLM protest in 2020 and protesting about racism against white people in an African mini state. Technically a valid issue, but the framing makes it abundantly clear that it has a different purpose.

This thread is full of men who are tired of hearing about women and finally want to absorb the entire discourse for their own comparatively trivial “issues”.

“And as soon as some concerned® white guy says that not all blacks are innocent you get all defensive. You’re the real racist. Look in the mirror.”

“I hate men” and “I hate women” are not comparable. One is kicking upwards in desperation, the other is kicking downwards in hatred.

I am literally a guy you dumb fuck.

You are the kind of person to call MLK a racist for being critical of white people’s complicity in segregation. Oppressors’ crocodile tears. History will judge you.

They are not distinct issues. Both of these issues are directly caused by toxic masculinity espousing men in the exact same way. There is no “anti-man sexism”. There is literally only “alpha bro” kinds of men beating down on everyone they see as inferior: women, and other men.

No one going through hard times is helped. Everyone is told to deal with it. They do deserve help and a support system. It’s just not women’s fault for being “too mean to men” while venting about sexism. It’s toxic masculinity’s fault for making men attack other, more vulnerable men in the name of manliness (e. g. “therapy is gay, men dont cry, stop being a pussy”). It’s an internal men’s issue.

No, I do agree with the original image’s message. I just do not agree with the framing of “can women please stop being mean to the poor men please”, blaming women for the internal self-inflicted self-hatred within men. They do need support networks, and their depression should be taken seriously. The entire idea of “if you cry you’re not a real man” is a blight upon the world. More positive masculinity should be shown. But this is not an issue of traumatized women ranting about men, it’s an issue of “alpha bro” men attacking other men.

I did, the rest is typical misanthropist nihilist Redditor drivel.

I think that statement is sexist Technically if interpreted as written, it would be, yeah. But we have this great thing called nuance, which tells us that if someone suffers their entire life from trauma, then policing their language about their trauma is not something that we do. If a Polish kid during World War 2 decided to hate Germans, technically it’d be a bigoted statement, but who would fault them? Who would make it a point to attack this kid for being xenophobic given his history? Who would seriously die on that hill?

I’m sure you can see how a statement like “men are trash” is sexist. It is only if you read it literally, which anyone with a brain does not, because we live under patriarchy, and any such statement directed at men from a clearly traumatized minority obviously means those espousing the toxic traits of masculinity that society marks as essential for manhood. “Men” clearly means “typical men”.

Just like feminists are correct to call out anyone saying “women are trash,” men are totally within their rights to call this out The difference is that we live under patriarchy. Someone saying “women are trash” is not venting about their trauma about women, they are kicking down from a position of privilege unto a minority. People saying “men are trash”, unless they’re really bonkers, obviously mean the constructed, toxic definition of “men” as applied in “real men” or “manliness”.

Even the bad ones might not be so bad if they felt less devalued and disposable. Which is not women’s fault, but again, men’s. It’s an internal issue between each other. They literally beat each other up, scream, yell, compete, make everything into a violent contest. Attack men if you want to combat that behavior, because it’s only men who perpetuate it.

I’m sorry if you’ve been traumatized and I totally see how having your words scrutinised like this is annoying as shit if you’re just looking to vent, but the whole point is that nobody should have to experience sexism. And that includes men. Treat others how you want to be treated and all that. I am just simply sick and tired of the vast majority of guys consistently making life hell for everyone else on the planet every single day, including even each other, and then suddenly we are supposed to care for their feefees. I do not. Let them solve it with their alpha lifestyle and superior intellect. I do not care a single inch whether a rapist feels unfairly treated.

I tend to use the phrase “I hate people” not because I’m avoiding the whole thing of saying I hate men or I hate women but people generally suck. All of the reasons you have listed above apply to people as a whole.

“All Lives Matter”

Yeah, it is diverting the conversation about women’s issues into an “acktschually meeeeen?” thing. Because we haven’t talked about men in two seconds.

The “serious and real issue” is literally just men’s own behavior. They could literally just stop making everything into a violent competition.