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    I dont think anyone here said the main issue is women, and if they said they’re in the minoriy(I hope) Patriarchy created many issues for both women and men, tho more for women This thread is talking about a serious and real issue, and you are diverting the topic

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      The “serious and real issue” is literally just men’s own behavior. They could literally just stop making everything into a violent competition.

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        This thread is about how often men going through hard times arent helped and told to deal with it, I dont think its their fault for wanting to be helped

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          No one going through hard times is helped. Everyone is told to deal with it. They do deserve help and a support system. It’s just not women’s fault for being “too mean to men” while venting about sexism. It’s toxic masculinity’s fault for making men attack other, more vulnerable men in the name of manliness (e. g. “therapy is gay, men dont cry, stop being a pussy”). It’s an internal men’s issue.

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            Yes, what you said here was true, the issue was mostly created by men. But most people here didnt blame it on women, you were the one to think that

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              The comments and upvote/downvote ratios say otherwise. The entire thread is made to concern troll. It’s like going to a BLM protest in 2020 and protesting about racism against white people in an African mini state. Technically a valid issue, but the framing makes it abundantly clear that it has a different purpose.

              This thread is full of men who are tired of hearing about women and finally want to absorb the entire discourse for their own comparatively trivial “issues”.

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                  And how does that “help” look like? Praising men again (very rare), making them sleep soundly knowing that the world revolves around them once more? All of the gender-specific problems men face according to the post and in society as a whole are created by men. Hint: the people saying “bro you go to therapy? lol u gay? fgt” are not women.

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                    By telling men with problems in life that no, therapy and help arent gay, they are ok