The biggest failure was the Democrats who nominated Biden in 2020. That primary was the last offramp that could have avoided a fascist takeover, either in 2024 or 2028, with Trump or a Trump clone.
The return of Trump might just have bought us another shot in 2028, but it’s not looking like the Democrats have learned much. Trump has a lot of similarities to Hoover and, as bad a President as he was, he was great for Democrats and progressivism. If the Democrats can get their heads out of their asses, the Trump Presidency might open a path to save the country - assuming we survive it.
The thing about Hillary’s loss against Trump was that it should have shocked the Democratic party into reform. The way they manipulated to get Biden and “anyone but Bernie” proved that they learned nothing.
The fact that the Justice Department gave him enough time to tour around the country whining and crying, spreading his stolen election lies before they charged him is what won Trump the election. It’s almost like they were in on it.
If Trump were in prison it would be someone else. Trump didn’t start this fascist movement, he surfed it. Trump is a uniquely detestable person, but he’s not the worst President the Republican party could come up with.
Nah, it takes time to build up a cult of personality. What Republican could step into that role and stay in the news in the same way? Schwarzenegger? He can’t be your president, name literally one other person.
Against Biden or Harris? I think you’re overestimating how hard they were to beat. Another Republican might not win the popular vote but, unlike Democrats, Republicans don’t need a mandate to get things done.
That’s an unfair question. It’s just too easy to nitpick reasons why this candidate or that could never win. Just look at the list of very convincing reasons why Trump could never win. Most Democrats even believed most of them before Hillary flopped.
Nikki Haley would probably be their best choice, though I could see Marco Rubio or Lindsey Graham. Hell, Matt Gates could probably win. He’s no more horrific than Trump.
Yeah maybe Haley. All of those people did have a major failure on one point, they decided to punch up at some point. Trump doesn’t punch up, he insinuates he’s an equal to people he perceives to be more powerful than him. He’ll fondle the balls so he can reap the benefits of that power.
For all of Trumps numerous flaws, he does have a type of charisma that no other Republican has. Trump manages to attract more people than just another Republican ghoul could. I honestly think without Trump we’d have had a much easier time winning.
Thanks Hillary and the DNC for signalboosting this piece of shit because you thought he was an easy opponent to beat…
We can put that on the Democrat’s tombstone, for all the good it will do.
Most voters are woefully ignorant. That’s nothing new. It has always been that way. The job of the politician is to reach voters. One party does this effectively and one doesn’t. The Republican message ends up being the only message ignorant voters are aware of, and they live in a different reality from political junkies.
This doesn’t excuse the voters but, if “voters suck” is all we get from it, then what do we do with that information? How does that help us win next time?Blaming voters is a loser strategy.
The fact that you think Democrats and Republicans are two seperate competing parties is laughable. As if the Democrats did all this by mistake to give tax cuts for their corporate overlords.
The biggest failure was the Democrats who nominated Biden in 2020. That primary was the last offramp that could have avoided a fascist takeover, either in 2024 or 2028, with Trump or a Trump clone.
The return of Trump might just have bought us another shot in 2028, but it’s not looking like the Democrats have learned much. Trump has a lot of similarities to Hoover and, as bad a President as he was, he was great for Democrats and progressivism. If the Democrats can get their heads out of their asses, the Trump Presidency might open a path to save the country - assuming we survive it.
I’d argue it started with Hillary, when the dems basically ignored their constituents and put her on the ticket.
Should have been Bernie… it was rigged in her favor and they’ve been reaping the bullshit of that cheat since…
The thing about Hillary’s loss against Trump was that it should have shocked the Democratic party into reform. The way they manipulated to get Biden and “anyone but Bernie” proved that they learned nothing.
The fact that the Justice Department gave him enough time to tour around the country whining and crying, spreading his stolen election lies before they charged him is what won Trump the election. It’s almost like they were in on it.
Edit: Clarity.
If Trump were in prison it would be someone else. Trump didn’t start this fascist movement, he surfed it. Trump is a uniquely detestable person, but he’s not the worst President the Republican party could come up with.
Nah, it takes time to build up a cult of personality. What Republican could step into that role and stay in the news in the same way? Schwarzenegger? He can’t be your president, name literally one other person.
Against Biden or Harris? I think you’re overestimating how hard they were to beat. Another Republican might not win the popular vote but, unlike Democrats, Republicans don’t need a mandate to get things done.
It doesn’t really matter who against.
Any ideas? Not one name?
That’s an unfair question. It’s just too easy to nitpick reasons why this candidate or that could never win. Just look at the list of very convincing reasons why Trump could never win. Most Democrats even believed most of them before Hillary flopped.
Nikki Haley would probably be their best choice, though I could see Marco Rubio or Lindsey Graham. Hell, Matt Gates could probably win. He’s no more horrific than Trump.
Yeah maybe Haley. All of those people did have a major failure on one point, they decided to punch up at some point. Trump doesn’t punch up, he insinuates he’s an equal to people he perceives to be more powerful than him. He’ll fondle the balls so he can reap the benefits of that power.
Have you forgotten the Obama birth certificate fiasco?
DeSantis. Abbott.
For all of Trumps numerous flaws, he does have a type of charisma that no other Republican has. Trump manages to attract more people than just another Republican ghoul could. I honestly think without Trump we’d have had a much easier time winning.
Thanks Hillary and the DNC for signalboosting this piece of shit because you thought he was an easy opponent to beat…
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Wrong.
The biggest failure is the American electorate.
We can put that on the Democrat’s tombstone, for all the good it will do.
Most voters are woefully ignorant. That’s nothing new. It has always been that way. The job of the politician is to reach voters. One party does this effectively and one doesn’t. The Republican message ends up being the only message ignorant voters are aware of, and they live in a different reality from political junkies.
This doesn’t excuse the voters but, if “voters suck” is all we get from it, then what do we do with that information? How does that help us win next time?Blaming voters is a loser strategy.
Let’s use hyperbole correctly.
The biggest failure is the failure of becoming a nazi. By about a trillion percent.
Sounds truthy, but no. Becoming a Nazi creates one Nazi. Becoming a neoliberal can create thousands of Nazis.
The fact that you think Democrats and Republicans are two seperate competing parties is laughable. As if the Democrats did all this by mistake to give tax cuts for their corporate overlords.
So edgy.