Over 100 Israelis have died and more than 900 were injured after rockets were fired from Gaza by Hamas militants, Israeli officials said Saturday.

The Palestinian Health Ministry said 198 were killed in Gaza and at least 1,610 were injured Saturday in retaliatory attacks from Israel.

“We are at war. We will win,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday.

The Israeli Defense Forces earlier declared “a state of alert for war,” according to a statement issued by the IDF.

“Over the past hour, the Hamas terrorist organization launched massive barrages of rockets from Gaza into Israel, and its terrorist operatives have infiltrated into Israel in a number of different locations in the south,” the IDF said early Saturday.

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    There was a joke on Rick and Morty that Rick got the Palestinians and the Israelis to sign the treaty of “peace plan that works if you think about it a bit”.

    I am sure every commenter has one of those plans in their back pocket that would work if implemented. The problem is there is no incentive. In Palestinine, Hamas grows stronger the more Palestinians hate Isreal, and their opposition grows stronger the more Palestinians want peace. Meanwhile Likud grows stronger the more Israelis hate Palestinians, and the opposition grows stronger when Israelis want peace. Why would either side implement something that would decrease their power?

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      The sad thing is that the people dying for this usually aren’t anywhere remotely near the level of the people that have power to lose or keep. Dying for the sake of rich assholes all the way down

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        Yeah, there’s another quote in Rick and Morty: “Everyone is trying to take over the galaxy, the trick is to be left alone by whoever wins.”

        I think it’s sad how Gaza is apparently blockaded by Israel. I’m not sure if the people there are literally being held captive, but if that’s the case then I can definitely understand their frustration and the lengths they would go to in order to fight back.

        If they’re allowed to leave, I think they should’ve just done that. It’s never easy, but unfortunately would be the best option in an imperfect world.

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      The only way that is solve is from the outside.

      Which means treating Israel as Appartheid South Africa was treated, and Hamas as a terrorist group.

      However only the last part is done, so the result is every day in Palestine people are born who will live under the boot of Israel and eventually feel they have nothing to loose because of Israel and Israelis, and join Hamas to fight the oppressor, because it’s only way to do something with a lifetime of anger and because even being part of a Hamas deemed a terrorist organisation all over the world and limited in their action, status and wealth by it, is still better than a “nothing to loose” situation.

      The refusal of Europe and the US to also force the one with the most to lose - Israel - to pull back the boot that’s making all those “nothing to loose, desperate and angry” alongside their attempt at making Hamas an unappeling option is what has kept the cycle of violence going.

      The blood is mainly on the hands of the US leaders and a number of European leaders because they’re the only ones who could stop this (since they’re the only ones with the power to stop both sides at the same time, which is the only way to sort this out) and they most certainly have the kind of bright and well informed advisers who would have pointed it out to them, and instead have endorsed Israel’s strategy of “tire the Palestineans till they give up and leave”, in other words, endorsing genocide.

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      This. Peace cannot come unless the civilians on both sides are loudly and forcefully willing to die rather than kill civilians on the other side. The problems can only be solved on an individual level.

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      The problem is there is no incentive. In Palestinine, Hamas grows stronger the more Palestinians hate Isreal, and their opposition grows stronger the more Palestinians want peace. Meanwhile Likud grows stronger the more Israelis hate Palestinians, and the opposition grows stronger when Israelis want peace. Why would either side implement something that would decrease their power?

      This is by design. I guarantee Israeli money gets funneled to Hamas so Hamas can in turn attack Israel then Israel retaliates with far far more force as usual, so on so forth.

      The easiest way to get rid of Palestine when you have every major super powers backing is to simply cause then to attack you and win a war of attrition, subjugation, annexation, absorbtion and either erasure or outright propagandizing the entire thing. Like the US and Canada have done with native Americans.

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        Your native american comment is a bit out of left field and a weird comparison. The Americans exterminated the native population with little resistance. It’s not like there was a resistance group similar to Hamas that sought reprisals for murder of native Americans. In Canada there was less bloodletting but there was subjugation.

        The main difference contemporaneously is that indigenous people in North America are reclaiming lost territory and rights through treaties. There is currently no systemic attempt to exterminate them.