there’s more than shown here and it’s more than just these users too 😭

if you find the thread don’t piss in the popcorn (brigade) but also please maybe don’t bring it back here i don’t want 400 notifications of entry level “is almond milk milk” vegan discourse

  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
    1·
    2 months ago

    Both of those people are morons. One for making the argument, the other for engaging in the argument.

  • Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    “I’ve been sober all day.” is my new comeback when someone insults my intelligence in an argument.

  • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 months ago

    this is 1/100th of the insanity that happened on the reddit sub r/milk
    I’m pretty sure there was a riot because the mods said almond milk was allowed or something like that

  • enkers@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Ah yeah, I’ve had an interaction with that anti-vegan user before, and let me tell ya, if you want to speedrun vegan bingo… ideal discussion partner right there.

    • TheTetrapod@lemmy.world
      0·
      2 months ago

      politely raises hand

      While I think factory farming is abhorrent, I find the most compelling reasons to eat plant-based to be the environmental ones. Therefore, I think “I only eat a little bit of meat” is actually a huge positive step someone can take. If your primary concern regarding meat is the cruelty of taking the life of another animal, that’s completely valid, but compared to the others, that square just feels out of place.

      • rapchee@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 days ago

        depends on the context, on the bingo, i interpret it as “i don’t want to go vegan, i only eat a little meat anyways”

    • Mayor Poopington@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0·
      2 months ago

      The happy animals one is hilarious. I would have no problem with someone eating me after I died and I sure as shit am not happy

      • enkers@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        Ah yes. That one is the one where every interlocutor happens to only eat meat “from their uncles farm with 3 cows on 40 acres of pasture, where they’re hand-scrubbed by cherubs while eating figs.”

  • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    1·
    2 months ago

    Transcribing the conversation here:

    Recessa, ↑4 ↓1: That’s completely idiotic, milk exist because there’s demand for it.

    commie, ↑1 ↓4: I think you understand that milk is produced as part of the mammalian reproductive cycle. can you describe the causal steps between demanding milk and it’s production?

    friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓2: Do you think dairy cattle just randomly spawns on the planetary surface?

    commie, ↑1 ↓3: do you think there’s a direct causal link between drinking milk and more being produced?

    friendlymessage, ↑3: Are you fucking with me?

    commie, ↑2 ↓3: no. I’m trying to illustrate that markets are not governed by natural law; they are populated by irrational actors.

    friendlymessage, ↑2 ↓1: Yeah, but they’re not as irrational as you are and producing milk costs money. If there’s no market, they will stop because they are not fuckin lunatics and they don’t have infinite resources

    commie, ↑2 ↓2: milk was farmed before markets existed. there is no reason to believe that will ever stop.

    friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓1: That… must be the dumbest discussion I’ve had in a while. Please read through your comments tomorrow when you’re sober

    commie, ↑1 ↓1: I’ve been sober all day.

    friendlymessage, ↑1: Okay, whatever you say

    commie, ↑1 ↓2: everything I’ve said is true. you’re objecting to reality, and being pretty shitty about it to me.

    friendlymessage, ↑2: No, you’re just making a no sensical argument at all. Milk was farmed from dairy cattle because it was consumed by humans. It’s simple supply and demand. There is no rational argument at all that if mankind stopped consuming milk, it would still be farmed. Why would any farmer go through the effort to upkeep cows and keep them impregnanted to make them produce milk if they cannot trade it or won’t consume it? Yes, humans have free will but they won’t produce stuff with very high effort just for fun. Except maybe very sick minds that just enjoy animal cruelty. And you won’t elaborate what your actual point is anyway.

    Also, not that it matters, but you’re arguing that dairy farming existed before the market is simply wrong. There has been trade between human civilizations long before we started domesticating animals.

    • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      2 months ago

      What’s the causal link between that comment being created and your brain hurting? Brains have hurt since before comment sections existed.