Too true. Scared dogs bark a lot. Confident dogs accept and welcome.

It will never cease to amaze me how much even ostensibly left wing Americans give the Republicans a free pass to be as awful as they like and not get criticised at all.

I understand that using reason, logic, truth and sense to debate with you was a waste of time and that we continue to disagree about sex. You claim there are only two sexes yet you are unable to demonstrate that on the real chart and you are unable to see that your eleven charts would be tangled up if you drew them as one diagram with one node each for each set of chromosomes, but there I go, talking logic to a bigoted troll who wouldn’t admit they were wrong under any circumstances whatsoever, because truth matters to them less than “winning”.

Did you own the libs again, powerstruggle? Did all the little red downvotes on the rest of the conversation prove you were winning your little war against the libs?

No, they blocked the UK because they we threatened with a fine for selling children’s browsing habits (that they themselves had tagged as children). Rather than simply filter out the children they geoblocked the whole country. This was before the porn registration legislation came into effect, but they like people to think it’s that because that sounds like they’re heroes rather than creeps. Imgur corporate thanks you for continuing to spread this disinformation.

“Content not available in your region”. Do you have an open access link from something less corporate?

I understand that you’re unable to use your definition to untangle the real chart. It’s OK, I knew that you wouldn’t be able to, and I also knew that you wouldn’t be able to admit that you can’t, because I also know that you want to win more than you want to be right. You’re quite happy to be wrong as long as you’re winning.

One day you may realise that truth and people are more important than winning, but that day is definitely not going to be today, and definitely won’t be written about using the powerstruggle account. Do you think that Charlie kirk realised that his loyalty to winning arguments was misplaced as he was dying, or do you think he died happy for a cause he believed in - the right to bear arms no matter the consequences?

By right wingers typically, yes.

I think I explained that one pretty well.

Did you understand that anyone who actually knows something about it also knows that sex is more complicated than you claim? Did you understand that you’re being a complete arse to trans people? Wait, yes, you knew that one. That was the deliberate part.

I was being sarcastic. Secretly I think you’re far, far more stupid than you begin to realise, because everyone who tries to explain what science or scientific method or scientific consensus means has wasted their breath because you’d rather cling to and defend daddy trump’s pseudoscience than learn amything. It’s willful ignorance and maybe the only cure is when trump’s goons kidnap someone you actually care about in real life that you might begin to question him in any meaningful way.

You’re so clever, repeating stuff like you do while ignoring the truth of what you reply to. I really respect that.

What the fuck are finding hard about “same thing at the top of several of them” that made you think they were disentangled? If I made maps where only one underground line was on each map it would in no way prove that the lines aren’t tangled in real life! Are you completely stupid or is it an act for the purpose of trolling more?

Given that we disagree about the meaning of the word sex and your charts use your definition, why on earth would it be meaningful for you to slap the word male and female on ten diargams that appear unconnected in only the most stupid and superficial sense that they’re in separate images, and why the fuck do you think I would fall for such a juvenile ruse?

If your (trump-following) “organised around producing” large gametes or small gametes theory that you’ve been telling everyone about for days and days on end holds water, have one chart, no duplicated nodes, split by gamete size, no tangles, the body is “organised” around the size of the gametes by your own definition, all the primary and secondary sexual characteristics well easily follow the “organisation” you claim is so definitive.

Or admit that your definition is useless.

You’re so clever.

You’re good at doubling down.

I’ll take that as “no you can’t disentangle them”

You:

no u

Me:

I bow before your superior intellect and clever debating points.

Love how you have me ten charts with plenty of overlap and claim that they’re all separate but when you look even superficially, you find that they overlap a lot like the original chart!

You claim there are two binary sexes then give me TEN and the male and female ones overlap!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You can’t even tell the difference between two sexes and ten!

Of course you can’t complete the task. It’s impossible.

If you like, try again. Two sexes. One chart. No criss-crossing. No sneaky putting the same thing on both the male and female sides of the chart, because it’s binary, isn’t it? Simply split it by what size of gametes the body is “organised around” producing! Your very own (oh, no, sorry, trump’s) definition!

I love that you admit that you can’t do it and even that the greatest experts mightn’t be able to do it but yet still believe it’s a useful definition! It’s a useless and crap definition! Actually useless! Complete crap!

Chromosomes are testable. Verifyable. Take a blood sample, some time in the lab and it’s done! This is why scientists use them to define sex. Your definition is untestable! It’s not science. It’s pseudoscience. It sounds plausible because it uses technical terms, and stupid people believe it because it sounds clever. But because you believed trump, who is famously very stupid, you have believed a stupid thing, and you can’t stop talking about it, in public!

If I found out that trump had duped me into believing some pseudoscience, I would be ASHAMED. You, not so much.

It’s funny that you said elsewhere that this has nothing to do with RFK, yet here you are, behaving exactly like him, Dunning-Kruger lived out in absolute full force.

1. The chart describes various variations in sex chromosomes and other factors and how they result in different primary and secondary sexual characteristics
2. The chart has many criss-crossing lines; it’s very tangled.
3. You claim that there are exactly two sexes and that it is simply “organised around” producing small gametes vs “organised around” producing small gametes
4. Therefore you should be able to split this chart into your two binary separate sides, your “organised around” producing small gametes side and your “organised around” producing large gametes side, and definitely the primary and surely the secondary sexual characteristics too should be part of that “organisation”
5. Whether or not you believe in my understanding of the chart, yours is surely deep and sound, and you can surely demonstrate your far superior understanding and the overwhelming explanatory clarity of your simple definition by untangling this chart into your binary male and female halves with all the criss-crossing lines (that everyone else in the thread keeps bringing up and you keep dismissing peicemeal) now neatly packaged into the two “organised around” binary sides, with all this (according to you) unnecessary tangling gone
6. Of course I believe no such chart exists and that your “sex is binary, just use trump’s size-of-gametes definition” is a bunch of oversimplified crap that’s of no use in either science or life, but you believe in all that shit and peddle it anywhere you think someone trans might be having a good day, so you ought to be able to do it if you’re right and sex really is as simply binary as you claim
7. Feel free to admit that it’s actually a bit more complicated than that. OH WAIT, NO, YOU CAN’T DO THAT, IT WOULD MEAN YOU’RE WASTING YOUR LIFE ARGUING A USELESS PSEUDOSCIENTIFIC DEFINITION JUST TO FUCK WITH TRANS PEOPLE BECAUSE FOR SOME INSANE LOGIC EVEN MORE SCREWY THAN YOUR DEBATING STYLE YOU THINK TRANS PEOPLE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH SHIT TO DEAL WITH.