Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel writes in her memoir, Freedom: Memoirs 1954 - 2021, that Russian leader Vladimir Putin planned his invasion of Ukraine after her resignation in order to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO.
I see where you are coming from, but I think this is not comparable.
Imagine if russia invaded Germany. Took over Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (renaming it to Putlergrad oblast), banned German and forced everyone to speak russian and get russian citizenship. In the mean-time Ukraine and Poland would build a pipeline to the newly annexed Putlergrad oblast. How would you feel then?
False equivalence. The pipeline did not go to what I presume would be Crimea in this example. Either way, I would not bomb Poland’s or Ukraine’s pipeline, especially after it was shut down anyway and would’ve easily been solved through politics rather than terrorist like actions - especially considering that Germany is one of Ukraine’s biggest contributors. If Germany was somehow taken over by the AfD or whatever, then fine, bomb away, because at that point you’d have a hostile and Russia aligned government anyway. If you want to join the West, the EU, then you’d have to be better than Russia, not act like them.
So you would be OK with Ukraine and Poland building a Russian pipeline if didn’t go directly to the newly annexed Putlergrad oblast? If the pipeline went to Austria or Czechia following the annexation of Putlergrad oblast, would this fundamentally change how you would view Ukraine/Poland’s involvement in the construction of the said pipeline?
I am not necessarily arguing you’re wrong or trying to convince you of anything. I am just trying to show you how it looks from the other side.
I see where you are coming from, but I think this is not comparable.
Imagine if russia invaded Germany. Took over Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (renaming it to Putlergrad oblast), banned German and forced everyone to speak russian and get russian citizenship. In the mean-time Ukraine and Poland would build a pipeline to the newly annexed Putlergrad oblast. How would you feel then?
False equivalence. The pipeline did not go to what I presume would be Crimea in this example. Either way, I would not bomb Poland’s or Ukraine’s pipeline, especially after it was shut down anyway and would’ve easily been solved through politics rather than terrorist like actions - especially considering that Germany is one of Ukraine’s biggest contributors. If Germany was somehow taken over by the AfD or whatever, then fine, bomb away, because at that point you’d have a hostile and Russia aligned government anyway. If you want to join the West, the EU, then you’d have to be better than Russia, not act like them.
So you would be OK with Ukraine and Poland building a Russian pipeline if didn’t go directly to the newly annexed Putlergrad oblast? If the pipeline went to Austria or Czechia following the annexation of Putlergrad oblast, would this fundamentally change how you would view Ukraine/Poland’s involvement in the construction of the said pipeline?
I am not necessarily arguing you’re wrong or trying to convince you of anything. I am just trying to show you how it looks from the other side.