Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that Ukraine would lose the war if the U.S., its primary military supporter, cuts funding.

Speaking to Fox News, he stressed the importance of unity between the U.S. and Ukraine as Russia accelerates its territorial gains.

Zelensky acknowledged Ukraine’s challenges on the battlefield, despite new U.S. weapon supplies, including long-range missiles and anti-personnel land mines.

He criticized German Chancellor Olaf Scholz for engaging with Putin, calling it a risky move.

Trump has pledged to end the war quickly but offered no specifics.

  • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Give em full air support. If it causes world war 3, it causes world war 3. Fuck it. Avoiding that isn’t worth letting Russia just consume its neighbors on a whim - that shit certainly won’t stop with Ukraine.

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      if it causes ww3, it will be a lot less bloody war than what will be if russia is allowed to recover and take over next country

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      Russia is also already instigating it with having North Korean troops in the combat zone. It’ll just be a tit-for-tat response.

      • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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        Up to 100k North Koreans. I don’t care how inept they are, 100k dudes with guns will utterly wreck Ukraine.

        • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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          Incompetent soldiers still consume a great deal of resources, and may become victims of even cheaper drones.

          But “cheaper” still requires some money.

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          I heard rumors of South Korea sending troops to counter. I don’t want world war but that seems fair to me.

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            it would be more fair that every online bellicist (no matter what camp) enlisted voluntarily and got the chance to validate their theories in practice.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Maybe if WW3 breaks out, Biden won’t hand over power to the literal fascists that are already making decisions to cause our demise.

      • Draces@lemmy.world
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        Wtf? That’s such a casual suggestion to dismantle democracy. Yeah let’s do that so we never get a progressive in office /s

        • bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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          If we’re going to have an autocracy, it may as well be the one that is still somewhat benevolent to the common man.

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            If we’re going to have an autocracy

            Yeah I’d rather not. I agree if that that were the only two options it would be preferable but I totally disagree that those are the only two options and I think it’s extremely dangerous rhetoric to say anyone should be an autocrat. Trump is about to be president and is the biggest threat to American democracy we’ve seen in anyone’s living memory. But he’s also about to become deeply unpopular again like every president does after election and particular bad as people start to remember what he’s like. That is a far cry from a guarantee that it’s over. Irreparable damage will be done but it’s just silly to race to the bottom

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          It wouldn’t be the first time a country did that. It’s never ended particularly well though.

      • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
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        That doesn’t sound very good either. I still want a chance to vote in another election. Trump might be able to dismantle it before then but if Biden held on to power it would be immediately dismantled.

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        wow yeah I hope we have global nuclear apocalypse so we can avoid the consequences of elections! totally worth.

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      You guys are really batshit crazy about war. I hope you are the first ones in the front lines. “The stars of the firing line”.

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      Bold stance. Better to bring about world war 3 than let Russia consume its neighbors? I’ll have to sit with that one for a bit.

      I grew up with the USSR so maybe I’m not quite ready to throw all earthly civilization into the fire to prevent 20% of that empire from being restored.

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          The way they’re struggling in Ukraine. 3 years for what they thought would be 3 days, and they haven’t accomplished their goal.

          Plus, several of the former USSR states are formal NATO members: the Baltics. With Russia struggling to hold the worst 1/3 of Ukraine, what on Earth makes you think they could sustain a war with NATO, proper?

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      Give em full air support. If it causes world war 3, it causes world war 3. Fuck it

      If you are so willing to die you can join the front and fight russia in ukraine. Don’t drag other people and the rest of the world in.

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      Give em full air support. If it causes world war 3, it causes world war 3. Fuck it

      If you are so willing to die you can join the front and fight russia in ukraine. Don’t drag other people and the rest of the world in.

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        Same page as catloaf - I already did my time and got my honorable discharge. If WW3 breaks out, pretty sure I’ll be getting recalled. So, yes.

        Then again, the alternative is wait for shit to destabilize until we get there anyway - again this shit won’t end with Ukraine.

        Call Russia’s bluff. If we’re wrong, it’s not like we aren’t fucked anyway. Might as well go down fighting evil, vs going down with evil’s dick in our throat.

        *looks at recent presidential election*

        …oh yeah. Reality. Pass the lube, my throat is sore as fuck.

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          Because of you don’t stop Russia now, there is a big chance that in a few years it’s a gangbang with the all the Brics nations who learned to handle the nuclear whip like a pro dom.

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          They’d rather have us back as training personnel. Most of us are broken in some way that makes deployment problematic unless we’re actually desperate. Then they can dump most of TRADOC into leadership spots for new units.

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          I already did my time and got my honorable discharge. […] , it’s not like we aren’t fucked anyway.

          you mistakingly switched from your specific miserable situation in singular to a general assumption in the plural form.

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          You don’t have to wait, instead of wasting time commenting here you are free to join the front in ukraine

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        I’ve already got my DD-214 but sure I’ll go back in to fight invasion of allies