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Summary
Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.
His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.
Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.
Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.
“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.
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To trump, every immigrant is a criminal.
Saying “the legal ones are welcome” is a smokescreen.
“The legal ones are welcome” is the “there will be exceptions for rape and incest” of anti-immigration rhetoric. It was always a lie meant to placate those with a few remaining shreds of a conscience.
Except his wife, I’m sure. She’s one of the “good ones”.
Don’t forget about first lady elonia
Who did you think I meant?
Lmao touché
Nah he is telling the truth, he will simply change the law to make most immigrants illegal.
I get that TikTok, YT Shorts, and FaceBook slowly removes attention span, but how the fuck does it cause Amnesia for everything that happened before 2020?
Trump literally removed holding time limitations and changed the Criminal Only ICE focus of previous administrations so they could put women and children in cages deport children alone to random South American nations citing some ancient treaties.
This already fucking happened. All of it.
Lots of people still thought Trump was running against Biden when they cast their vote.
At this rate, I suspect that a good number also thought Obama was still in office.
don’t know about this far off, but I witnessed some people blame obama when biden was first in office.
Thanks, Obama…
Tbf Kamala did nothing to distance herself from Biden policy wise.
I agree, she did poorly
Do they not realize that he and his core audience believe the greatest crime a person can commit is not be born white?
Like the German version of Nazis before them, they aren’t coming for their biggest target first. They’re coming for their political opposition, the “abortionists”, the atheists, the drug users, the mentally ill…
RFK Jr.:
“I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,”
Re-education camps, huh.
Nazism 2: The Brainworm Boogaloo
Genuinely going to be interesting to see how these fuckwads manage anything, not just this fascism bullshit. Like honestly, at least most of the higher ranked Nazi officials were pretty intelligent (albeit evil.)
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What?
“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.
Oh Carlos, mi dulce niño del verano …
imagine being that gullible
Carlos, for the 2570th time, you are free to go chico! Thanks for only being an immigrant and not a criminal immigrant. Our criminal tags are pretty good and you don’t have any. See you tomorrow before work again? 😊 You too man! 😀 Oh what an inspiration of a person!
He will have a rude awakening, more like the law being rammed on his anus along with an one way ticket
I know y’all want to make this a stupid voters leopards ate my balls post but these are undocumented people. They can not vote and had no say in the election.
Remember the old maxim: “no one hates new immigrants more than old immigrants”… Their fellow legalized immigrants supported this outcome as well
100%. My wife’s family ALL came illegally. I think it’s like 7-10 people, the last one got naturalized like 4 years ago. All but a couple voted for trump and their stance on it is “oh well we got lucky that’s just how it is. They need to come legally”
I had no words after that.
I’m sorry, my “give a fuck” stopped working just after the election results came in.
Trump promised to deport illegals and even “denaturalize” certain citizens. He wants to deport 20 million illegal immagrants separate family and put the in camps while awaiting deportation. None of this was a secret, they fucking bragged about it.
Trump gained 14 points nationally with Hispanics. I hope he goes balls to the fucking wall and drops the hammer. May the people get exactly what they voted for.
Meanwhile, I’m going to do the best to make sure me and mine are taken care of. Stock up on toilet paper, N95 masks, freeze dried food and bullets. It’s gonna be lit!🔥
The only difference between you and a Republican is your rhetoric then.
Go fuck yourself. I cannot imagine gleefully watching people be put in camps and feeling fucking smug about it. I’m sure there were plenty of Germans like you.
No u
Always has been
Oh yes, just “the bad hombres”. /s
So, the leopards are coming for the faces, huh? Who would’ve guessed?
“Why didn’t literally everyone tell me that the racist genocidal maniac was a racist genocidal maniac?”
INCLUDING the racist, genocidal maniac?!?1?
Seeing a lot of voting blocks which apparently were clueless as to what they were voting for. The leopards won’t care.
I’m honestly terrified as a naturalized citizen that he’s going to either try to revoke my citizenship or ignore it altogether :/
Birthright citizenship is on the chopping block
If they’re allowed to carry out their plans in full, will there even BE any path to citizenship?
Depends - are you white, rich, male, speak English and at least a touch racist yourself?
If not - na, probably not.
How willing to work the fields are you? Not? Then you are deported!
I’m doing my part!
Bender laugh.jxl
I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump. You have nothing but my deepest sincere disgust and deserve whatever happens to you.
I sincerely hope you’re never in a position of authority.
Sorry I have no sympathy for those that vote against their self interests.
I’m not gonna feel sorry for the guy that willingly cut off his nose to spite his face.
Sorry I have no sympathy for those that vote against their self interests.
So you don’t have sympathy for >99% of the American voters.
At this point I don’t have sympathy for 99% of humanity let alone Americans. History has shown me we’ll make the wrong choice almost every single time and at this point I just want humanity to die out and quit poisoning the world.
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Tried twice. Decided I’d stick around to see what kinda shitshow would form. Not surprised in the slightest that we’ve once again taken 10 steps backward.
No, just the 1% who threw their vote away.
I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump.
Are white people exempt from that or why did you choose that wording?
I chose that wording because Trump is a massive racist and yet all these minority groups he’s openly shit on still voted for him and they can get fucked.
Because yeah Mr. “Build the wall” is totally gonna have your back.
Oh and everybody fucking clapped. Get over yourself because while you do whatever the fuck this is, real ones are out there building solidarity and dual power. Snap out of your neoliberal yesteryear and into the reality that what matters now is a.) channels/orgs for mutual aid b) Solidarity Economies (aka folks having a foothold in their local economies and c) Encouraging anti-authoritarian parenting methods.
We are in this mess because we want that EZ fix. Just vote against (obtuse, christo-)fascism so you can go back to bed for 4-8 years (while magrinalized folks get to suffer) – Instead of looking at the big picture.
You know who looked at the big picture and built (astroturfed anyway) grassroots? All these right wing ghouls.
Im not gonna rewrite this for every clown at the top of every thread playing the blame game.
Get involved. Engage prefigurative politics. Identify the root causes and move on to the solutions.
Or keep yelling at scarecrows you imagine. Just dont be surprised if that turns you into someone people dont want to be around.
Solidarity? Really? Where was the solidarity when the choice was an obvious fascist or literally anything else? Zero fuckin sympathy for the people that voted for the man who openly said he was gonna make their lives harder. The man who openly said he’s gonna deport as many people as he can. The man who’s openly been a steaming pile of shit since his first fuckin presidential run.
They voted to fuck themselves over and I’m supposed to help them? Lay in the bed of shit you made and fuck right the fuck off.
Where was the solidarity when the choice was an obvious fascist or literally anything else?
Im not being condescending here:
In every city.
It even happens to exist outside of cities!
You can find mutual aid groups wherever you are. If you’re asking, you need to engage beyond the bare-minimum of electoralism.
Here’s a short vid from like past 48? hours about finding yours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcZjj0NGIaY
Now go re-read and find me where I’m telling you to go cozy up to a maga-hat of any life-experience at all, and strike up solidarity with them.
No. Quit with the doom obsession. It is a distraction so as to avoid doing something more meaningful about the root causes.
To quote a friend: (speaking on such quislings)
many people will unfortunately need to learn this the hard way it seems at the expense of those who take the time to see the writing on the wall those ignorant to their exploitation will seldom listen to those who try to tell them how horribly theyre being fucked “if it were really so bad id notice” theyll say “this isnt so bad” theyll say, standing on the peak of the mountain that is dunning-kruger unknowing all we can do is wait, and watch to find out what what it is that throws them into the valley of unfathomable uncertainty in the meantime we must work for each other, for those who do see how good things could be. maybe then, our greener grass will coax them into giving us a fair listen
So, I repeat: Quit with this dopamine loop. You feel so strongly? Then go be about it.
Can you just rewrite it for us here now because it doesn’t make any fucking sense? I dont agree with the guy you’re replying to, but I can’t understand wtf you’re trying to say. It reads like it was written by a stroke victim.
Since you are so much against voting I have good news for you: You wont have to ever vote again now! There wont be free elections in america again after all
Ooh ooh i have something for this!
Right so, certainly a topic worth caring about. “So much against voting” is a simplifcation. Kinda gross one, one could even say
https://crimethinc.com/2016/04/29/feature-from-democracy-to-freedom
But you dont have all that time for giving a fuck about the way representive modern neoliberal democracies fall short, so let’s leave it at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7KUhBxpD14
If you spend the next 2 or 4 years building the expectation that their wont be an election, you are doing their work for them
So, whats yr deal? Are you here manufacturing consent on bebalf of fascists, or are you going to build Muatalism style in your physical proximity. Riding the fence doesnt make sense. ✨️
This is the response I didn’t have the mental energy to write. Thank you.
Heh, ty dor saying so. I got sick of seeing it.
God, you people really can’t live without a boogeyman or a scapegoat. Y’all disgust me.
It’s not a scapegoat. I expected white people to vote for him. Minorities voting republican can always get fucked. If you’re part of the problem you’re equally to blame, but if you’re dumb enough to vote against yourself you’re a special kind of stupid.
Wouldnt people who voted for someone who hates them just be misinformed?
Congratulations on discarding your humanity and becoming a fascist. “Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds”.
Good luck with that. If you voted for him you’re an even more gullible dipshit than seems possible.
It is absolutely disgusting how many people are letting their disappointment and fear turn into vindictiveness and anger.
They’re undocumented immigrants. By definition they didn’t vote for him, and you should really do some introspection to figure out why this is the first thought you had.
Naturalized immigrants, who do vote, often have family members and/or friends that are now on the chopping block. A lot of them voted for Trump thinking they were getting rid of the “bad” immigrants.
Fascists also tend to take a “kill them all, let God sort them out” approach to things like this.
Here legally but the wrong shade of brown? Maybe your English is too accented? “Don’t worry the arrest is just preventative, once they prove they’re here legally (from the camp, with no resources, assistance, or access to their documentation) they’ll be returned to their community.”
Except they won’t. Oopsie, gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.
Some people talk like we didn’t see this shit play out 90 years ago.
Okay.
So you are suggesting that an appropriate response to a humanitarian crisis is “good luck with that” because…some of their relatives voted Republican?
Do you feel responsible for all of your relatives, or is it just immigrants?
You’re putting words in my mouth. I was responding directly to your point about how undocumented immigrants can’t vote and nothing else. I feel very bad for the people that are going to be affected directly. Honestly, everyone is going to be affected in some way.
Centrists would rather blame people who cannot even vote than admit that moving to the right has failed.
If someone voted or prefers for bad stuff to affect the whole country, then I see nothing wrong with preferring them to be the one to personally experience it.
If 51/100 people voted to throw a random citizen into a volcano to make God happy, I would hope that the person that gets thrown in is one of those 51 people, and not one of the other 49.
If someone can’t vote because but still holds harmful views, it doesn’t make them any less deserving of finding out they are wrong. If you wish harm on others, I’m not going to coddle you when you’re sad you personally got harmed.
What part of “undocumented immigrants can’t vote” did you miss there?
You’ve constructed this image of undocumented immigrants who support Trump, which is plainly stupid. In any group, maybe some people are idiots. But you’re trying to pretend that that’s ALL undocumented immigrants, masking your bloodthirst behind a few “If” statements.
Volunteer for a local charity that helps immigrants. If you see a bunch of MAGA caps then you might have something to say. I don’t expect that to happen.
Read my last paragraph? I know they can’t vote. A lot of them still support Trump and his policies, and if they do, they can find out the hard way what those policies really mean.
To be clear, I absolutely do not support Trump’s deportation policy. I simply don’t feel bad for those that would wish deportation on others, if/when it ends up happening to them. If you support Trump and you get deported by his policies, you don’t get my sympathies. I’m tired of playing nice with people that spew hate and only care about their own personal problems over the problems of their own community and country.
Harris lost a lot of ground with latinos in this election:
Trump beat Harris in nearly every major battleground state and improved among several key demographics, namely Latino voters. According to CNN’s exit polls from 2020 and 2024, Trump gained 14 points among Latinos, with Harris winning the bloc by just 6 points this week. In 2020, President Joe Biden won the Latino vote by 33 points.
The hispanic community moved very far to the right. Yes, the ones that actually voted are not undocumented migrants, but people in their family are, and many of them do share in support of Trump
When he spoke to Flores in March, Velazquez said President Joe Biden had treated immigrants as if they were ignorant, and that the country was worse off because of his economic policies.
If Mr. Velazquez gets deported by Trump, I will have no sympathy for him. He even in that article says he won’t have sympathy for himself, he’ll leave the country if Trump comes for him. He literally knows he voted against his own interests and says it in the article. Why should I feel bad for that person? I’ll save my sympathy for the ones who don’t want to kick their own neighbors out.
“It’s not human,” he said of mass deportations, but added that he has a plan if the policy affects him. “I respect the decision. I leave the country.”
Here’s one more from Fox News talking about immigrant families on both sides of the issue.
“So you support Donald Trump because of the economy?” the CNN reporter asked the undocumented immigrant, to which he responded, “For the economy, yes. I don‘t support the anti-immigrant action,” he said, as the reporter asked about Trump’s plan for mass deportations.
One day, maybe white people will be held responsible for other white people the way you hold minorites responsible for their families. Maybe then you’ll understand how dumb it is to cherry pick the few worst of you, and pretend that they’re representative of the bunch. It is amazing how many white liberals are excited to see innocent people punished because someone who looks kinda like them voted for Trump.
If I was an undocumented migrant and a family member of mine voted for Trump, or vocally supported him, I’d be pissed, and I’d say “if they deport me, I hope they deport you too.”
Are you saying that would be wrong of them?
And I’m not allowed to feel the same way, just because (you’re assuming) I’m white?
I dislike and wish real life consequences upon any Trump supporter. Not their family.
I’m talking about people that support Trump. You don’t seem to understand that. My point is I have no sympathy for Trump supporters whether they’re migrants, whether they voted or not. I feel bad for the migrants that don’t support Trump. I really hope you can comprehend that.
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You do know he’s going to change it do nationalized citizens are not citizens anymore right? If being born here doesn’t count as being a citizen, and this is retroactive, what does count?
Maybe you should get off the MAGA train and look around.
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You’re not advocating compassion, you’re telling us to calm down, and be like you–apathetic.
“If you’re here illegally, you better be looking over your shoulder.”
They’ve also mentioned along the lines of “if you are here illegally, then you’ve already committed a crime”.
The fun part is, it’s not actually a crime. That’s why they use immigration judges and not criminal ones.
“If you’ve downloaded a car, then you’ve already committed a crime.”
Stephen “nazi” Miller wants to create an army from Trump loyal national guard members and go into “blue” states to enforce deportation.
I doubt they’ll check if you’re a criminal or not.
Or indeed if you’re an immigrant.
