While many are scared, some dismiss the dangers of mass deportations under Donald Trump.

Summary

Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

  • Dragonstaff@leminal.spaceEnglish
    125·
    6 days ago

    It is absolutely disgusting how many people are letting their disappointment and fear turn into vindictiveness and anger.

    They’re undocumented immigrants. By definition they didn’t vote for him, and you should really do some introspection to figure out why this is the first thought you had.

    • IamSparticles@lemmy.zipEnglish
      82·
      6 days ago

      Naturalized immigrants, who do vote, often have family members and/or friends that are now on the chopping block. A lot of them voted for Trump thinking they were getting rid of the “bad” immigrants.

      • KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        5·
        6 days ago

        Fascists also tend to take a “kill them all, let God sort them out” approach to things like this.

        Here legally but the wrong shade of brown? Maybe your English is too accented? “Don’t worry the arrest is just preventative, once they prove they’re here legally (from the camp, with no resources, assistance, or access to their documentation) they’ll be returned to their community.”

        Except they won’t. Oopsie, gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

      • Dragonstaff@leminal.spaceEnglish
        22·
        6 days ago

        Okay.

        So you are suggesting that an appropriate response to a humanitarian crisis is “good luck with that” because…some of their relatives voted Republican?

        Do you feel responsible for all of your relatives, or is it just immigrants?

        • IamSparticles@lemmy.zipEnglish
          21·
          6 days ago

          You’re putting words in my mouth. I was responding directly to your point about how undocumented immigrants can’t vote and nothing else. I feel very bad for the people that are going to be affected directly. Honestly, everyone is going to be affected in some way.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
      71·
      6 days ago

      Centrists would rather blame people who cannot even vote than admit that moving to the right has failed.

    • FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world
      42·
      6 days ago

      If someone voted or prefers for bad stuff to affect the whole country, then I see nothing wrong with preferring them to be the one to personally experience it.

      If 51/100 people voted to throw a random citizen into a volcano to make God happy, I would hope that the person that gets thrown in is one of those 51 people, and not one of the other 49.

      If someone can’t vote because but still holds harmful views, it doesn’t make them any less deserving of finding out they are wrong. If you wish harm on others, I’m not going to coddle you when you’re sad you personally got harmed.

      • Dragonstaff@leminal.spaceEnglish
        12·
        6 days ago

        What part of “undocumented immigrants can’t vote” did you miss there?

        You’ve constructed this image of undocumented immigrants who support Trump, which is plainly stupid. In any group, maybe some people are idiots. But you’re trying to pretend that that’s ALL undocumented immigrants, masking your bloodthirst behind a few “If” statements.

        Volunteer for a local charity that helps immigrants. If you see a bunch of MAGA caps then you might have something to say. I don’t expect that to happen.

        • FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world
          11·
          6 days ago

          Read my last paragraph? I know they can’t vote. A lot of them still support Trump and his policies, and if they do, they can find out the hard way what those policies really mean.

          To be clear, I absolutely do not support Trump’s deportation policy. I simply don’t feel bad for those that would wish deportation on others, if/when it ends up happening to them. If you support Trump and you get deported by his policies, you don’t get my sympathies. I’m tired of playing nice with people that spew hate and only care about their own personal problems over the problems of their own community and country.

          Harris lost a lot of ground with latinos in this election:

          Trump beat Harris in nearly every major battleground state and improved among several key demographics, namely Latino voters. According to CNN’s exit polls from 2020 and 2024, Trump gained 14 points among Latinos, with Harris winning the bloc by just 6 points this week. In 2020, President Joe Biden won the Latino vote by 33 points.

          The hispanic community moved very far to the right. Yes, the ones that actually voted are not undocumented migrants, but people in their family are, and many of them do share in support of Trump

          When he spoke to Flores in March, Velazquez said President Joe Biden had treated immigrants as if they were ignorant, and that the country was worse off because of his economic policies.

          If Mr. Velazquez gets deported by Trump, I will have no sympathy for him. He even in that article says he won’t have sympathy for himself, he’ll leave the country if Trump comes for him. He literally knows he voted against his own interests and says it in the article. Why should I feel bad for that person? I’ll save my sympathy for the ones who don’t want to kick their own neighbors out.

          “It’s not human,” he said of mass deportations, but added that he has a plan if the policy affects him. “I respect the decision. I leave the country.”

          Here’s one more from Fox News talking about immigrant families on both sides of the issue.

          “So you support Donald Trump because of the economy?” the CNN reporter asked the undocumented immigrant, to which he responded, “For the economy, yes. I don‘t support the anti-immigrant action,” he said, as the reporter asked about Trump’s plan for mass deportations.

          • Dragonstaff@leminal.spaceEnglish
            11·
            6 days ago

            One day, maybe white people will be held responsible for other white people the way you hold minorites responsible for their families. Maybe then you’ll understand how dumb it is to cherry pick the few worst of you, and pretend that they’re representative of the bunch. It is amazing how many white liberals are excited to see innocent people punished because someone who looks kinda like them voted for Trump.

            • FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world
              11·
              6 days ago

              If I was an undocumented migrant and a family member of mine voted for Trump, or vocally supported him, I’d be pissed, and I’d say “if they deport me, I hope they deport you too.”

              Are you saying that would be wrong of them?

              And I’m not allowed to feel the same way, just because (you’re assuming) I’m white?

              I dislike and wish real life consequences upon any Trump supporter. Not their family.

            • FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world
              11·
              6 days ago

              I’m talking about people that support Trump. You don’t seem to understand that. My point is I have no sympathy for Trump supporters whether they’re migrants, whether they voted or not. I feel bad for the migrants that don’t support Trump. I really hope you can comprehend that.

    • whithom@discuss.online
      34·
      6 days ago

      You do know he’s going to change it do nationalized citizens are not citizens anymore right? If being born here doesn’t count as being a citizen, and this is retroactive, what does count?

      Maybe you should get off the MAGA train and look around.