• Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    How the hell is he winning so much of the Black and Hispanic vote? Like… any percentage at all?

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      A higher percent of the Hispanic support than any republican nominee in history (as high as 45%) with closest next being George W. Bush.

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      Hispanics have a very high population of religious voters and many of them don’t believe in abortion. For many religious people, even if they disagree handily with everything else the Republican party does, they will not vote Democrat because of the abortion issue.

      There was a pretty large research study and a bunch of podcasts on it.

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        This! My guess is that being religious and conservative is at least 75% of the reason why Hispanics would support Trump. My father was a Colombian born immigrant who in my memory always supported the Republican party and the majority of the years after he got his citizenship I’m certain he never voted Democrat. He did come around though before passing in 2023 and I’m pretty sure he did not support or vote for Trump. >

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      He’s not, he had higher polling with African Americans in the last two elections than actual voters, he had extremely low voting numbers with African Americans, slightly higher with men, but not by that much, it’s really common in politics to have a lot of people doing shady bullshit to see if it will sway elections, also the population nation wide is low enough that getting a sample size that’s actually representative is not likely, even some trusted unbiased polling was using the opinion of one single person to represent all polling numbers in a whole state and the poll was pretty old by that point as well, so with African Americans you see a lot of really strange lookin poll numbers, but believe me, Trump going after Haitian refugees with racist tropes about ‘‘savage’’ and voodoo bullshit made him quite vile to antiracists of all stripes, I don’t think those numbers are going to pan out at all.

      Now Hispanics, that’s a whole different story, being Hispanic myself I can tell you, it’s not a solid voting block. We aren’t as good at consistently voting in our own interests. There’s light skinned people who think they’re white enough to be in the whites only club, racism isn’t hard to find among Hispanics, many do hate African Americans and others, so the white identifying crowd can be pretty similar to racist whites in a lot of ways, you also have Hispanics that are very concerned with hyper mauculinity and want the strongest man, and only think in terms of displays vs substance, and there’s deeply religious Hispanics who can get drawn in with the evangelical rhetoric. So your not going to see a big percentage on one vote or issue with Hispanics, it’s always going to be a mixed bag even with Trump’s promise too deport more Hispanics from the US regardless of legal status, or his call backs to ‘‘operation wetback’’ or this bullshit, you just won’t see big sweeping numbers from Hispanics it will always be slip up.

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        There’s light skinned people who think they’re white enough to be in the whites only club

        Bro I’m whiter than sour cream, I’m actually grateful for global warming because everytime it snows no one in my family can find each other anymore, and I’m STILL not white enough to be in the Whites Only Club. You need white skin AND approval from a lot of guys named Ben, Franklin that is, if you get what I’m saying…

        Money you need a lot of money.

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      Because most people don’t follow politics that closely and are simply unaware of stories like this, but are vulnerable to the forces of nostalgia and false memories of the first Trump administration, plus lingering fondness from the character he played on the Apprentice.

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        If Harris loses, I know the fact that they didn’t constantly run ads showing the Pandemic of 2020 asking “Do you really wanna go back to THIS?” is partially to blame

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        See, at this point… I’m either convinced Harris has pretty much got this in the bag and the media is lying to get people to doomscroll because money, or there’s a Copium Leak and when it’s fixed I’ll see that Trump is coming to kill us all.

        The former feels weirdly more valid…

        Still VOTE, I ALREADY HAVE! MY STATE HAS EARLY VOTING, FIND OUT IF YOURS DOES TOO!

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          You probably have confirmation bias based on your environment. I own a contracting company and many in the trades drink the koolaid, and are completely blind that they are voting themselves poor over the long term.

          Some people can only learn through pain - they can’t express empathy past what they personally experience - and those people tend to be squarely trump voters. They’ll vote for bacon every day as pigs, and only realize their mistake afterwards.

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          I desperately want to believe that about the media, but Tim Miller and the folks at Pod Save America (whom I trust to be brutally honest) are also constantly talking about how close the race is. I’m so fucking depressed about this shit. We are this close to having a literal fascist as President.

          This fucking son of a bitch had to ask John Kelly who the good guys were in WWI.

          FUCK.

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            Nate Silver’s said he’s already calling it for Trump, which doesn’t feel good to know, because the last time he said that Trump won.

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                I was hoping for that, but then I realized swing states legalized marriage voting, where the man can decide the woman’s vote and go into the booth with her to ensure it.

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    Trump reportedly complained later in the day that these “fucking people” are “trying to rip me off.”

    He thinks it’s his money.

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      I mean, to be fair, at least someone cares about the egregious waste that taxpayers spend their money on just to make rich people rich.

      It most certainly should not cost $60k of taxpayer money to bury a soldier. Someone, odds are a small group of interconnected people, is making profit off of fleecing the American public.

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        That’s not what he cares about here, though. Very obviously.

        As one of SO MANY examples, he charged the secret service, i.e. Taxpayers, ridiculously inflated daily costs after requiring that they stay in trump owned properties throughout his time in office and have events planned and catered by his businesses at equally exorbitant prices.

        So, on balance here, You’re either ignorant or you’re intentionally trying to show trump in what you think is a favorable light. You can acknowledge that what you said here is unfathomably short sighted at best and edit your original post OR you can just sit there unmoved and show your whole ass as a fraud trying to make a coward’s argument for trump.

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        The only problem I have with your statement is the implication that the only “someone” is trump.

        Everyone should care about waste or excess spending.

        Edit: and trump himself has driven a shitload of waste and excess for personal gain.

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        That cost isn’t even high by civilian standards, and the military has struggled to provide proper servicee, you’d be surprised how many people who are in uniform providing services at military funerals are just people willing to volunteer to do so at their own cost, some travel quite a length to do so.

        The next time someone asks you about being a patriot, supporting the troops, and so forth, keep in mind that your against proper funeral services for veterans to save a nickel and represent that view. Be honest, let them know you don’t care.

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    Just one more thing that should absolutely torpedo any political career, that won’t hurt him at all. His MAGAt cultists probably think that was “speaking the truth” or some stupid shit like that. Anyone who would be bothered by his comments has abandoned him ages ago.

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    Trump was reportedly still irked by the bill later that same day, with him claiming that Guillén’s grieving family was trying to take advantage of his wealth.

    “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “F—ing people, trying to rip me off.”

    So this is rather telling, him thinking that the “money of the US government” is “my money”

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      This is because he desperately is clinging to the ancient ideal (and I mean ANCIENT. Like early Middle Ages ancient) that everything in the kingdom is the direct and personal property of the king.

      So in that sense, the billions of dollars allocated to the military every year is actually his money.

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    And the Veterans for Trump organization of course had this to say on the matter:

     

     

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    Oligarchy 101.

    Treat public expenses like it’s coming out your own pocket.

    Treat the public purse like it’s your own personal bank account.

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      In the US, funeral homes try to get as much money out of you as possible because they know you are emotionally vulnerable. There are exposes on funeral homes having predatory services.

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      They can be, sadly. It depends where you live, where you have someone buried, and what services and coffin and whatnot you get. But yeah, the funeral business in the US is pretty crazy greedy. $60k is definitely on the higher end. According to a quick Google, my state’s average funeral cost is around $8k, with the total cost (including mortuary services, etc) around $20k.

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        The hell. What if your wage is 10k a year. Ie. you’re on disability benefits or social security. Will my family have to bury me in the backyard?

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                  Have I? Yes, yes I have. I live fairly comfortably in a house that I own with a good job to pay the bills. But I volunteer with people that are not in the same situation and it’s heartbreaking. People that can’t afford to pay for unexpected expenses like a car breaking down. So they lose the job then lose their place of residence.

                  Vets, people with disabilities or even people that messed up early in life can struggle.

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            Why are people downvoting this? Do they think funerals, cremation, and burals are free somehow? They must think funeral homes are community service provided out of the kindness of the owners hearts.

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      It should be noted that the article says it was attended by the mayor and city’s police chief. I’m assuming quite a few more less notable people also came. I would also assume this increases the cost.

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        The fuck? You don’t have to pay people to attend a funeral…

        Especially not with taxpayer money…

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          You need to provide more things the more people come. Also, when the state is at fault for the death, maybe they should pay for it. However, most of this one was paid for by donations after Trump refused (which I assume would have come from his own money or his campaign money had he not, but IDK), which you’d know if you read the article.

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    “No, 60k is to bury a DEAD Mexican. The ones fucking generally don’t want to be buried”

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          No! Not my permanent record! So what does it say? Cuz my permanent record is that part from Micheal Jackson’s song …“another one bites the dust…” It just repeats permanently.

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            So far it just says “don’t bury while jerkin” but I’m afraid that might be interpreted to mean you shouldn’t be buried while I’m jerkin which I guess is still decent advice.

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    Somehow, some way, this orange clown makes me angrier everyday, even when I thought I’d seen the worst of him.

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    I love how Bonespurs is campaigning so hard for Kamala Harris. It’s good to see him doing something useful for a change!

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    And the only thing that matters: “Trump’s little butthole gremlin crawled out of his crack to comment: Lies! Democrat Lies! He never said this!!” and all the Magoos nodded in agreement at the absolute truth provided by an unbiased cult member.