Aside from racism. I mean economically/socially, what issues does too much immigration cause?

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    How quickly your culture can absorb new people. If you’ve got a hundred people who are in culture a, and you integrate 100 people from culture b. Now culture a is 50/50. And it’s hard for culture a to maintain its traditional positioning.

    If you want to maintain a culture, a people, a language, you need to gate how many people enter the population at any time. So that it can be absorbed.

    You similar problems with militaries, how quickly they can ramp up new recruits will still maintaining their previous cadre culture.

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      There’s something to be said for culture and tradition, which have been for a long time the cornerstones of our civilization.

      Everybody has their own opinion on this of course. For me, I feel that culture and tradition are in the way of progress. At some point our current traditions, cultures and values will change, they will evolve. I’m all in for a true multicultural society if there is a clear segregation between state and religion.

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        Problems start when the people coming in don’t share those sentiments and instead want their authoritarian culture to replace and dominate.

        Edit: also, in the West democracy and equality have become part of our culture and tradition, for the most part, and those values just are not shared by lots of migrants. And you can’t tolerate those values being replaced. It’s the paradox of tolerance.

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          That’s a fair thing to be concerned about, but are we really anywhere near that level of immigration in the US? I can’t speak for European countries.

          • sir_pronoun@lemmy.world
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            Both the US and Europe would be much nearer to that level if any migration was allowed unchecked. It is becoming a problem in Europe and it is growing. It’s just a sad reality that democracy can’t consist of people who don’t believe in democracy.

  • Kaboom@reddthat.com
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    Immigrants are often effectively scabs. They work for less, take more abuse, that sort of thing. And It’s a lot harder to form a union when half the workers don’t even speak the same language.

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    It’s a complex and polarising issue. The main problem is that some, sometimes most, of immigrants don’t want to assimilate. They are creating ghettos, don’t respect local laws. Other issue is that governments prefer to spend tax payer money for accommodating immigrants instead of solving nation’s issues.

    I wouldn’t limit immigration per se. I would limit unchecked illegal immigration and spend more money on assimilating immigrants that want to contribute to a country they moved into.

  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    Immigration only really causes economic issues with bullshit employee specific visas like H1Bs - those visas trap immigrants in powerless positions where they’re unable to advocate for fair compensation and drive down overall wages.

    Everything else is fucking bullshit xenophobia.