• crashfrog@sopuli.xyz
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    10 months ago

    Honestly, the real question to me is how many innocent people were maimed, injured, or killed in this attack.

    Quite a bit fewer than 0.1% of the individual detonations appear to have harmed anyone except the Hezbollah operative assigned to the pager, so this doesn’t actually appear to be a question. The attack was extremely discriminate and targeted.

    but if they’re in a cafe they’re not the only ones getting hurt.

    In every case in which one of these went off in a cafe, the intended target was the only one hurt.

    That’s the true crime, the potentially disproportionate massacre of innocent civilians.

    But that isn’t what happened. The opposite happened.

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            10 months ago

            A collateral civilian death during a military action has never been considered “murder.” It can’t be, since it’s unintentional.

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              10 months ago

              There has been quite a lot of collateral civilian casualties, how many more people must die and how many more people must suffer under poverty in the name of the great American empire?

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                10 months ago

                There has been quite a lot of collateral civilian casualties, how many more people must die

                None, if Israel’s enemies surrender and end the war. That’s how war works.

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                  10 months ago

                  Do you genuinely think thats how the world work? Not Israel nor the Israeli people will ever know peace as long as Israel exists as an extension of the American Empire. If all of Israels enemies surrender then the American Empire will simply create new enemies for them to fight in their perpetual endless war.

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                    10 months ago

                    Not Israel nor the Israeli people will ever know peace as long as Israel exists as an extension of the American Empire.

                    We’ll know peace because everyone like you, everyone who won’t accept a Jewish state in the Middle East, will fight until you die. And you’ll lose.

                    Peace comes at the end of war.

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      10 months ago

      Several of the victims were children. They went off in crowds. There was no way they could control that many devices with precision when they set them off all at once like that.

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          10 months ago

          That particular pager was in a bag, against a person, pointed away from anyone or anything else. Not to mention anything of the second attack, which used much larger charges and started fires and blew out windows across Lebanon.

          And anyway, a single example isn’t going to assuage anyone who has been reading reports of women and children dying from the attack.

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            10 months ago

            They’re also ignoring the literal terror being experienced by civilians who witnessed people’s legs and faces being blown off in public.

            That’s terrorism.

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            10 months ago

            That particular pager was in a bag, against a person, pointed away from anyone or anything else.

            Where else would you carry a pager? You have to feel it when it vibrates.

            Not to mention anything of the second attack, which used much larger charges and started fires and blew out windows across Lebanon.

            Well, I’m sorry to hear that Lebanon’s glazers just got several months of guaranteed work, I guess, but I’m otherwise not sure why this is relevant.

            And anyway, a single example isn’t going to assuage anyone who has been reading reports of women and children dying from the attack.

            What reports?

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          10 months ago

          The mental gymnastics people will do to defend literal state sponsored terrorism.

          And don’t waste your time, I actually know what those words mean.

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            10 months ago

            Yes, it’s pretty shocking how people have come out in support of an Iranian-funded terrorist group that has killed women, children, and a hundred Americans

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        10 months ago

        Several of the victims were children.

        The fathers of these dead children will simply have to live with the terrible consequences of their involvement with antisemitic terror (who are we kidding, they don’t care.)

        They went off in crowds.

        In every such case only the agent was harmed. You’re proving how targeted the attack was.

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            10 months ago

            Hezbollah publicly announces their war casualties so they’re the source

            I don’t know how to explain that any more clearly. If you’re still puzzled, I recommend asking a question instead of posting a single word

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              They are asking for the source of your statement that less then 0.1% of the victims where valid targets. Since most have seen evidence to the exact opposite of that statement.

              Oh and although I can put links to back that statement up, I will not. (Since that is the presiding fashion here apparently)

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                They are asking for the source of your statement that less then 0.1% of the victims where valid targets

                Hezbollah is the source. That’s three times I’ve said so. What about that is still unclear?

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                  The same Hezbollah that claim this was an “act of war” and in nothing I can find give any indication of non Hezbollah casualties? Once again I can link the translated statement from Hezbollah to support this, but since you for some reason will not neither will I.

                  Oh and to show this is not a lack of effort by myself here is a link to the information on Vitamin D toxicity

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                    10 months ago

                    The same Hezbollah that claim this was an “act of war” and in nothing I can find give any indication of non Hezbollah casualties?

                    Why would Hezbollah report non-Hezbollah casualties? They’re not the government of Lebanon.