• blazera@lemmy.world
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    Mehdi Hasan: Vladimir Putin is a war criminal?

    Jill Stein: Yes, we did condemn —

    Yall are deranged

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      Give the full exchange. I watched the full interview. She said “we condemn his actions”. She never could in a full sentence condemn him. It’s gotta be loaded with qualifiers, and even THEN nothing of value comes out of her mouth. It shouldn’t be like pulling teeth. It’s a simple yes/no.

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          Wrong. Her answer is ‘yes’ followed by a million qualifiers. Because for sugar daddy Putin we need to use the softest padded gloves. We’re not stupid. The ruse is up.

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            What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to be doing to claim that saying “Yes” to the question “is Putin a war criminal” isn’t a clear yes/no answer and clear agreement? This is like MAGA level insanity.

            • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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              Why can’t it be yes, full stop? The same way she did for Biden and Netanyahu?

              Saying yes with no many qualifiers is insane level of weaseling.

              Heres a simple example:

              “did you rape that woman” “yes”

              vs

              “yes she was asking for it”

              Is not the same. That’s what she’s doing.

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        You are responding to a quote of her saying yes and condemning him, and getting interrupted by a bully.

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          Saying yes then loading it with ten thousand qualifiers is not a clear yes. Nice try though.

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      Mehdi Hasan: And he’s a war criminal who should be on trial?

      Jill Stein: Well, by implication.

      Mehdi Hasan: You’re struggling here to say something very simple. This is why people have their doubts about you with Russia. Why is Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal but not Vladimir Putin?

      Jill Stein: Well, as John F. Kennedy said, “We must not negotiate out of fear and we must not fear to negotiate.” So if you want to be an effective world leader, you don’t start by name calling and hurling out that.

      Mehdi Hasan: So how will President Stein negotiate with Israel then, if you’ve called Netanyahu a war criminal?

      Jill Stein: Well, because he very clearly is a war criminal.

      Mehdi Hasan: Oh, so Putin clearly isn’t a war criminal?

      Jill Stein: Well, we don’t have a decision, put it this way, by the International Criminal Court.

      Mehdi Hasan: Yes, we do. Yes, actually, actually, you’re wrong. There’s an arrest warrant for Putin and there isn’t an arrest warrant for Netanyahu, so why is Putin not a war criminal, but Netanyahu is?

      Anyone remotely supporting Stein is either as ignorant as she is (claimed there were 600 members of Congress LOL), or drinking Russian vodka.

      This is also just the Chef’s Kiss in terms of having of all people Mehdi Hasan take down Stein.

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        Im very familiar with her position on Russia and Putin. As she has immediately done in this interview, that you will absolutely never acknowledge, she has already condemned Putin and Russia’s invasion many times. She is more critical of Israels genocide because of our involvement in supporting it. And she has criticisms for our role in aggressive military positioning around Russia before that invasion. She has a consistent platform of reducing military aggression.

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          Bullshit. Our involvement or not is utterly irrelevant to identifying a war criminal. She tried to cop out by claiming we don’t have a verdict with the criminal court; neither do we with Israel but that didn’t stop her, did it… ? Smells like Russian vodka to me.

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            that you will absolutely never acknowledge

            Despite your lies, she immediately identified him as a war criminal

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              Evidently many here, including Hasan, disagree. In fact, her own response proves otherwise when she claims it’s because the criminal court didn’t issue a verdict. Once again, a double-standard in her clear declaration of Bibi being a war criminal despite lacking the same verdict.

              You’ve got no logic to support your argument.