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Amoxtli@thelemmy.club to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 10 months ago

Polling guru Nate Silver predicts Trump has 64% chance of winning the Electoral College in latest forecast

www.foxnews.com

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Polling guru Nate Silver predicts Trump has 64% chance of winning the Electoral College in latest forecast

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Amoxtli@thelemmy.club to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 10 months ago
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Nate Silver predicted Trump has a 64% chance of winning the Electoral College on Sunday in an update to his latest election forecast, following the results of new poll.
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          Ending slavery is not a conservative position by definition. Conservatism means continuing the system that is currently in place and accepted.

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            @Zeppo @wintermute_oregon

            Not correct. Conservatism aims for the eternal. Our system is feudalism, which chattel slavery replaced.

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              Are you sure you’re a conservative? Most conservative views are insulting. But back in real life, it was a deeply ingrained institution at the time.

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                  I don’t think there’s much use in explaining this, but you don’t seem to have a very good grasp of history. Party names are not the key to ideology, and it’s baffling that people think they can compare politics from 180 and 120 years ago using current concepts. If you think modern Republicans are the party of Lincoln, let’s see… who would we see flying Confederate flags currently?

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              @wintermute_oregon @Zeppo

              We do not believe anything of that nature.

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            @LookBehindYouNowAndThen @wintermute_oregon

            By definition, the Radical Republicans were progressives.

            Back then it had a lot more to do with industry than Communism.

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              Your profile says you’re a conservative and a fascist? @neuromancer said before they’re incompatible, and he’s a conservative.

              He also says Lincoln was a conservative.

              Why do you both say the opposite? Is conservatism so meaningless that such fundamental differences are just ignored?

              Why do you think conservatives deny that fascists are part of their movement when they clearly are?

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                @Zombiepirate

                Fascists are hybrids. Fascism is corporatism, i.e. state control through corporations.

                What does my profile say?

                “Furthest Right: raging realism plus transcendental reverence. I write at https://www.amerika.org/ and https://www.deathmetal.org/ about topics such as nihilism, ecofascism, paganism, eugenics, capitalism, perennialism, conservatism, natural selection, and of course death metal.”

                Ecofascism is a separate movement. You read your Linkola and Kaczynski?

                Full readout here:
                https://annihilation.social/notice/AgRr091ay4W0HCTtcu

                Lincoln was a radical. He, too, was a hybrid, in that he came from the Anglo tradition but was outside of it as a “radical.”

                He was a progressive of his age. He was closer to Marx than Washington.

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                  So you’re saying that fascists and conservatives work to similar ends?

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                    @Zombiepirate

                    The most conservative society:

                    * Absolute monarchy
                    * Ethno-nationalist
                    * Free market based
                    * Caste system
                    * Culture/religion united

                    Like anything else, there are degrees of conservatism.

                    Some conservatives, like GWB, are barely conservative.

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                    @Zombiepirate

                    Fascists still believe in the State; conservatives are free market devotees but ambivalent if not hostile to the State.

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                @Zombiepirate

                As to what conservatism is, I write about that a lot:

                https://www.amerika.org/

                It is a focus on order beyond the individual and the social group; we call it realism, and it tends to favor historically-proven results and a case-by-case basis instead of ideological categorical containers.

                About ten thousand people in North America can successfully parse that sentence.

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                @LookBehindYouNowAndThen @wintermute_oregon

                Lincoln was a radical closer to Marx than the founders.

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                    @LookBehindYouNowAndThen @wintermute_oregon

                    Slavers were just there to make money, and most of them were Arabic, Chinese, or Jewish.

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          @wintermute_oregon @LookBehindYouNowAndThen

          Democrats were conservative back then.

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      I guess if you knew basically nothing about US history that would be a convincing statement.

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      @wintermute_oregon @LookBehindYouNowAndThen

      Slavery sucked because it was diversity.

      It was also cruel and pointless, since it was low quality labor.

      The solution is ending diversity.

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