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Amoxtli@thelemmy.club to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 10 months ago

Polling guru Nate Silver predicts Trump has 64% chance of winning the Electoral College in latest forecast

www.foxnews.com

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Polling guru Nate Silver predicts Trump has 64% chance of winning the Electoral College in latest forecast

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Amoxtli@thelemmy.club to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 10 months ago
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Nate Silver predicted Trump has a 64% chance of winning the Electoral College on Sunday in an update to his latest election forecast, following the results of new poll.
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      @LookBehindYouNowAndThen @wintermute_oregon

      By definition, the Radical Republicans were progressives.

      Back then it had a lot more to do with industry than Communism.

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        Your profile says you’re a conservative and a fascist? @neuromancer said before they’re incompatible, and he’s a conservative.

        He also says Lincoln was a conservative.

        Why do you both say the opposite? Is conservatism so meaningless that such fundamental differences are just ignored?

        Why do you think conservatives deny that fascists are part of their movement when they clearly are?

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          @Zombiepirate

          Fascists are hybrids. Fascism is corporatism, i.e. state control through corporations.

          What does my profile say?

          “Furthest Right: raging realism plus transcendental reverence. I write at https://www.amerika.org/ and https://www.deathmetal.org/ about topics such as nihilism, ecofascism, paganism, eugenics, capitalism, perennialism, conservatism, natural selection, and of course death metal.”

          Ecofascism is a separate movement. You read your Linkola and Kaczynski?

          Full readout here:
          https://annihilation.social/notice/AgRr091ay4W0HCTtcu

          Lincoln was a radical. He, too, was a hybrid, in that he came from the Anglo tradition but was outside of it as a “radical.”

          He was a progressive of his age. He was closer to Marx than Washington.

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            So you’re saying that fascists and conservatives work to similar ends?

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              @Zombiepirate

              The most conservative society:

              * Absolute monarchy
              * Ethno-nationalist
              * Free market based
              * Caste system
              * Culture/religion united

              Like anything else, there are degrees of conservatism.

              Some conservatives, like GWB, are barely conservative.

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                You’re wanting the US to be an ethnostate again then?

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                  @Zombiepirate

                  Diversity is suicide.

                  So is socialism.

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                  @Zombiepirate

                  Absolutely, and every other nation as well, since it is the best way and I wish them well.

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              @Zombiepirate

              Fascists still believe in the State; conservatives are free market devotees but ambivalent if not hostile to the State.

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                Not all conservatives are free market devotees; that’s a modern twist that is not universal.

                But you agree that they work to the same ends?

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                  @Zombiepirate

                  I disagree. Conservatives naturally favor organic methods like common law, free markets, culture, and hierarchy.

                  As far as work to the same ends, I think you have it backwards. Fascism is a hybrid. It borrows some goals and methods from both Left and Right.

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                    Conservatism also borrows from the leftist rhetoric and action though, so that’s not a solid distinction.

                    They’re both counterrevolutionary in nature; I don’t see the distinction that you do. It appears that they are possibly different in degree instead of kind. This is the “ends” that I refer to: opposition to the liberal revolutions since the 18th century.

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          @Zombiepirate

          As to what conservatism is, I write about that a lot:

          https://www.amerika.org/

          It is a focus on order beyond the individual and the social group; we call it realism, and it tends to favor historically-proven results and a case-by-case basis instead of ideological categorical containers.

          About ten thousand people in North America can successfully parse that sentence.

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          @LookBehindYouNowAndThen @wintermute_oregon

          Lincoln was a radical closer to Marx than the founders.

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              @LookBehindYouNowAndThen @wintermute_oregon

              Slavers were just there to make money, and most of them were Arabic, Chinese, or Jewish.

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