• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    2 months ago

    russia did the same shit in ukraine, i certainly don’t remember seeing anybody shit and piss themselves nearly as much as they are now, russia is also known for engaging in “russification” just a little bit of cultural deletion going on, nothing to see here.

    And this ignores the blatant bombing and attacks on civilian locations, including their own. Though that last bit might be more historical.

    I’m sure china is guilty of at least a few of these as well.

    like idk what you want me to say, that shits bad, and im pretty sure it’s already a crime. I’m also not even sure how prevalent this is, you don’t mention any numbers or anything. People in the ranks are corrupt, morally or monetarily, shit happens. The best you can do is deal with it retroactively, and if you don’t it merely breeds the influence of that culture.

    It’s not like i can just up and move to palestine and start shooting Israelis, i guess i could complain online, but my opinion is that it’s already a shitty situation and that there are legitimate humanitarian concerns. But beyond that, it’s outside of my power.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        it’s really not whataboutism, at the end of the day, far more life has been lost in and over russian/urkraine, than has been lost in palestine from israel.

        You can’t call everything whataboutism, because then we would have no moral framework whatsoever. If everything had to be dealt with in isolation the law would be a mess. Thankfully it’s not, because it’s not dealt with in isolation. It’s dealt with at a broader social context.

        Arguably this isn’t even whataboutism, because whataboutism is a deflection tactic used to focus on other issues entirely, of which i am not doing at all.

        And to be pedantically specific, true whataboutism here would be you guys saying “israel is genociding palestine” and then me responding with “yeah and so is hamas, they’ve stated as such” that would be REAL whataboutism.

        But in this case i’m merely referencing another conflict in a similar time span, in a similar area. To gauge consistency and general thoughts on the matter. Of which there seem to be none, i’ve never seen anybody in IP talk about this conflict, so that’s interesting. Doesn’t really mean much other than these people only want to talk about IP and only seem to know things about IP.