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    “The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The imbecile doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”

    ― Bertolt Brecht

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      Sounding an awful lot like Gamers.

      Two genders, male and political.

      Two races, white and political.

      Three sexual orientations, straight, hot lesbians, and political.

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        Three sexual orientations, straight, hot lesbians, and political.

        Gundam: the Witch From Mercury went from hot lesbians to political lesbians when they showed no-room-for-theoretical-male-senpai commitment and exchange of friendship rings! wojak-nooo

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          Global electricity prices in Europe (short of France that is self reliant with nuclear reactors) have gone up dramatically since the gas stopped flowing from Russia.

          In 2022, the pricing of 1 kWh in residential areas in Germany are 0.6 USD. That’s 3 times the US if I’m not mistaken.

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                Shit indeed. The thing that was going to supplement renewable energy to stave off climate change becoming less and less effective and safe because of climate change is one of the cruelest cases of tragic irony ever!

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                  Maybe desalination at the cost of reduced energy output should be considered, or desalination in general. Even if the weather stabilizes, having those around on low maintenance wouldn’t be a bad idea.

                  Only problem is, it will take around 3-5 years to build, probably.

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            In Finland our prices jumped up for a while but have since gone back to normal. At least insofar as it’s not a news topic anymore.

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            Last year I could have bought a new PS5 every month for the cost of electricity. Things have settled now but it’s still expensive - I switched a lot of my personal infra to the cloud and Intel NUCs to cut down the cost 😭

            IMO If people want to post hard political material on a mainstream meme community, I wish they would make a minimum effort to make it relatable to those outside of the various originator echo chamber communities.

            The constant “US Bad” “China Bad” and adjacent topics targeting a specific political audience gets annoying with how repetitive it is - if it’s not politics related to my region OR suggesting ways I can improve things, I could not honestly give a bigger dump

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        Ce drăcie grăit-ai despre mine, mojicule? Țiu să-ți aduc întru știință căci fusei întîiul din Școala de Rezboiu de la Viana și fusei în multe misii neștiute la Înalta Poartă și pre mulți am prăpădit. Sînt școlit în rezboi de vicleșug și niminea nu mînuiește mai acătări ca mine archebusul în toată armia cea sfîntă. Mi-ești dară numai o șaibă. Te voi mătrăși cu atîta pricepere ce n-a văzut întreg Stambulul, ascultă voroavele mele. Îți închipui că vei rămîne slobod dupe ereziile ce mi le grăiești pre ceastă jalbă? Rogu-te a chibzui iară. Numai ce vorbim de am trimes soli către iscoadele mele din țările rumâne iară copita murgului tău e taman vegheată așa că proptește-te întru viforul ce-are să vină, mamelucule. Viforul ce-are să spîrcuiască nimicnicia ce tu găsești de cuviință a numi vieață. Ești pristăvit, mojicule. Poci ca să fiu orișiunde, fieștecînd și poci a te stropși în șapte sute de chipuri, iară asta doar în brînci. Iată că nu doar ce sînt înalt școlit în trîntă, dară poci umbla la armurăria dorobanților și am să mă slujesc de dînsa întru totul pentru a-ți nimici șezutul de pe fața gliei, zamparagiule. O, numai de-ai fi vezuit ce amărăciune vei fi ispitit asupra-ți cu ceastă şăgalnică cuvîntare, pasămite ai fi muțit. Dară nu-ți fu în putință, n-ai cadaticsit, iară acum vei da tribut, nărodule. Iată voi slobozi urgie asupra-ți și de îndată te vei năbuși într-însa. Ești pristăvit, mojicuțule.

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        I’ll try to watch some world news and see if i can find anything meme worthy. America is just so easy to meme, its low hanging fruit really.

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          The internet IS very US-centric, so this is kinda true, but it’s also very easy to abuse and bore people out. I’m Honduran and I know more about US Politics than about my country’s own politics. I know more about US politics than I do about every other country. This is not a flex, it’s a fucking burden on my mind and mental health.

          I kinda liked how Lemmy wasn’t too US-centric at first, but I’m feeling similar levels of burnout from Lemmy as I did from Reddit, which was mostly due to how much US shit was posted there just about everywhere.

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            I know more about US politics than my own country politics and this is pretty blessing imo, it’s like so depressing and toxic

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    That smuglord in a recent thread that said “programming.dev doesn’t allow politics” certainly allows programming.dev’s nonpolitical politics to ooze anywhere I can see a programming.dev user address of origin. smuglord

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        I never got the complaints about that. It’s not inherently bad to have one thing exert complete control over another thing… the problem is when you start doing it to people

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          I don’t think I’ve seen anyone with a problem with the computing concept itself, they have a problem with the unnecessarily unpleasant and offensive nomenclature. There’s lots of ways to express a leader/follower dynamic that’s intuitively understandable. Hell, call them Dom/Sub drives if you want to.

          There’s just no good reason to invoke historical attrocity that’s still ongoing to describe a concept like this.

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            Ok fair point and that is a really funny idea. But afaict dom/sub dynamics aren’t complete control and it would be pretty dangerous if they were

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    I don’t care which side is saying it I’m just tired of it (for the same reason I am tired of advertising)

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      Lmao. This post is specifically made for funny-clown-hammer like you. I literally saw you commenting on a meme about conservative physics and one about tax evasion. Both very political things. Yet I did not see you complaining there. For someone who claims to be tired of seeing politics in their memes, you sure do love them.

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        ya got me there

        my excuse, don't read if you don't want to read

        after writing that comment I decided to write comments on some posts to show that I didn’t have a left-leaning bias (which is a shit thing to do)

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          I didn’t have a left-leaning bias

          Nice try, but you can’t escape bias. Contrary to popular opinion, unbiased sources don’t exist.

          Be careful that you don’t have a liberal-leaning bias; both US parties preach liberalism

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      “Why can’t people stop existing or having thoughts or ideas that threaten my increasingly tiny bubble world?” grillman

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    Nah but this is all Lemmy is at this point. That sucks. We need more than this.

    It’s ok that this has a place here. But we need more than this.

    Want some hard truths? Blinders off, reddit is still a much better place for content than Lemmy.

    Honestly I’m getting tired of it.

    Edit - I feel the need to say that there is actually one consistent thing on Lemmy that is fantastic - rpgmemes, specifically the ongoing series about a goblin high priestess playing dnd.

    https://ttrpg.network/post/1125391

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      Yeah the memes on Lemmy are all absolute garbage-tier and get praised just bc they’re content.

      I guess I could repost my back-catalogue of reddit OC - at least then I’d be contributing content. 🤷‍♂️

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      The funny thing is, deciding which memes are political and which memes are not political is itself a political decision

      You just can’t escape it

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        I think I can figure out where “DAE X political party bad?!?!?!?” should be

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      Exactly. We complainers aren’t saying they can’t post about politics, just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space.

      EDIT: A message to people from Hexbear

      Thank you for your input, but I stopped responding to arguments here at least 24 hours ago because I can’t juggle that many conversations at once. I would ask that you respect that and not continue to argue with me about what is and isn’t political, because I’m just going to ignore it anyways. Thank you.

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        The concept of having ‘free speech zones’ where political speech is allowed is … very inherently political though.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

        Civil liberties advocates argue that free speech zones are used as a form of censorship and public relations management to conceal the existence of popular opposition from the mass public and elected officials.[24] There is much controversy surrounding the creation of these areas – the mere existence of such zones is offensive to some people, who maintain that the First Amendment to the United States Constitution makes the entire country an unrestricted free speech zone.[24] The Department of Homeland Security “has even gone so far as to tell local police departments to regard critics of the War on Terrorism as potential terrorists themselves.”

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        just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space

        How is everyone supposed to know what parts of reality and conceivable concepts are political to you and which parts of it are just the political status quo norms that you’re so comfortable with that you don’t notice it the way a fish doesn’t notice water?

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          In this context, it’s matters related to government, politicians, or the general culture of a country, in which there are two or more major camps of conflicting opinions, where a good deal of people in one or more of those camps view the other camp as evil because of their view.

          If the post is in a community where only one of the camps is significantly present, but the post is attacking the other camp, it is still political.

          Why do you ask? Are you hoping to expose some inconsistency in my definition? Maybe use it to call something I like political with the expectation that I’ll disagree with you? Or were you expecting my definition to be biased, calling something political that shouldn’t be, so that you could expose me as a moustache-twirling villain?

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            So we can’t post memes about … checks notes the general culture of our country?

            So no memes about anything with literally any specifics.

            You realize if you got your wish memses would just be “how many of yall like breathing”

            Maybe you could point us to an example of an acceptable meme with no politics involved.

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            You’re pretty upset that I asked a question aren’t you? I wonder why that is.

            Government and politicians I think are pretty self explanatory and I would agree those are inherently political, no argument there.

            What do you think is part of a general culture of a country, or not? How would you define culture that has conflicting opinions? Is it solely up to your discretion, or would you agree that if anyone has any disagreement about a meme that would make it automatically political?

            Is this one political because it references the FBI, a governmental organization? https://startrek.website/post/1847371 I would argue that it is political.

            Is this one political because it references culture related to advertising in capitalism? I would think everyone should agree that any reference to or commentary of an economic system is inherently political because of course economic systems are controversial. I don’t see how anyone could argue that references to a combination of two major brands isn’t a commentary on marketing: https://programming.dev/post/3200916

            I mean this one references politics so it’s clearly political right? https://lemm.ee/post/8502748

            I’m just curious about what you and others think is political versus not. You can’t have a discussion about if something should or should not be allowed if you can’t clearly define the boundaries of that thing. I find the discussion around what is and isn’t politics to be an interesting one, that’s all.

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              Not upset, just suspicious because I’ve seen you asking that question a lot.

              Obviously what I consider political is up to my discretion, but I’m pretty sure the general definition does not include contentious memes, and mine doesn’t either because I gave a clause about one side considering the other side evil because of it.

              In general, if a person asks themselves “is what I’m posting political?” they can answer correctly 95% of the time, and the 5% of edge cases won’t upset 95% of the complainers.

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                That’s an awful lot of words to implicitly say “it’s not political if I agree with it”

                “If a person asks themselves is this political they can answer correctly 95% of the time.”

                Yea turns out it’s easier to answer a question correctly if you’re deciding I’d the answer is right or not.

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                  That’s an awful lot of words to implicitly say “it’s not political if I agree with it”

                  Where are you getting that?

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              I think can answer the memes questions for you.

              1. Non political
              2. Non political
              3. I guess it could be considered political in a way, but it doesn’t target a specific party or opinion so I’d let it through.
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                Lmao. The FBI: famously non-political government organization that murders activists as easily as one can breath air.

                And Microsoft: famously non-political company that bribes lobbies the u.s government constantly to gain monopoly over their market, works hand-in-hand with federal agencies to monitor system users, and regularly influences city, state, and national politics in the pursuit of subsidies of the American worker in order to further boost their already gross profit margins.

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                  I’m not disagreeing that some companies can have a political impact on the world.

                  Those memes in particular, aren’t focused on the political aspects. You have to be missing a brain in order to miss the point there.

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                But I think they’re political. Is my opinion on what is and is not political invalid for some objective reason?

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                  You’re entitled to your opinion. It doesn’t make it less wrong though, the content of the memes is clearly not political.

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        Exactly! Just like how nobody was saying Rosa Parks couldn’t ride the bus. She would have gotten to her destination anyway had she just ridden at the back like we requested!

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          political memes are not comparable to segregation wtf, i dont mean to friendly fire but this take is not the dunk you think it is

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            You’re right. Wanting people who make you uncomfortable to go to their own area so that you don’t have to see them or think about their political grievances has no parallels with segregation.

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              Look, yes obviously as socialists we are not welcome in most public places if we speak out, but of all places to make that claim Lemmy.ml is not the one. The mods here are comrades. This is, next to hexbear and grad, probably one of the online spaces most receptive to us. The lemmitor you were replying to has no institutional power against us at all. I hate to tone police but posting on Lemmy is not comparable to being Rosa Parks and trying to make a tortured analogy isn’t helping anyone.

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                The atomic unit of propaganda is emphasis. If you force people to stop posting “political” memes in the main memes space then you are implicitly taking the stance is that “non-political” memes are normal and “political” memes are the other. Everyone intuitively understands that being othered is not desirable because the advocates for separation are not the ones volunteering to create their own apolitical memes space, they’re trying to get political memes ejected from the mainstream space.

                Of course this isn’t literal segregation, but the arguments for separation basically all boil down to “go to this separate but equal space and stay there” so if they don’t want to be compared to people who historically made the same argument, they should try coming up with a different argument.

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        You’re on the memes community for a political instance. If you were complaining about politics in the lemm.ee or lemmy.world meme communities I’d be entirely with you.

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    STOP POSTING ABOUT POLITICS. I’M TIRED OF SEEING IT. MY FRIENDS ON LEMMY SEND ME MEMES. ON KBIN IT’S FUCKIN’ MEMES. I WAS ON AN INSTANCE, RIGHT, AND AAAAAAALLLL OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE JUST POLITICS STUFF. I- I SHOWED MY CHAMPION UNDERWEAR TO MY GIRLFRIEND, AND THE LOGO, I LOOKED AT IT, AND I SAID, “HEY BABE, WHEN THE COMMODITY IS FETISHIZED” [ding-ding-dings to the tune of The Internationale] I FUCKIN’ LOOKED AT A TRASH CAN, I SAID, “UNDER CAPITALISM, WASTE PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN THE ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY THAT UNDERPINS THE ENTIRE SOCIO-ECONOMIC SYSTEM”. I LOOK AT MY PENIS, I THINK OF THE OMNIPRESENT PHALLOCENTRISM IN OUR PATRIARCHAL SOCIETY, AND I GO, “POLITICS? MORE LIKE POLY-DICKS!

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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      Guess the anthems:

      • Ding ding ding ding, di-ding, ding ding ding ding, di-ding, ding ding ding ding.

      • Ding di-ding ding ding DING! Ding di-ding, ding ding ding.

      • Ding di-ding, ding ding, di-ding, ding, ding di-ding, ding ding, di-ding!

      • Ding, di-ding ding ding, ding, ding di-di-di-di-ding ding, di-di-di-di-di-di-DING.

      • Ding, ding, di-ding…

      • Ding, di-ding, ding, ding, ding, di-di-ding. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, di-di-DING.

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    Do you want people to stop coming here? Because this is how you can get people to stop coming here.

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        Stuff that brings me joy. Posting left wing political shit on lemmy is like, the epitome of preaching to the choir. Every time I see some unnecessary political take that everyone here agrees with anyway, like there’s always that one person in any thread that has to bring politics into things and I’m just like nope, I’m out. Got better things to do than have my mood ruined by thinking about the worst parts of life. Its like you people are intentionally trying to make everyone miserable.

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          Yes, 1000%. This is exactly how I feel about this stuff.

          We’re here to escape from the world to some extent, not constantly be reminded about it, specifically the worst parts