• TheFonz@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    So I’m curious --and honest to god on my grandmother’s grave-- what made Kyle’s position not self defense? Because the argument I hear from conservatives is that was the place where he (and I believe his father too) worked.

    1. He was chased down

    2. He fired warning shot

    3. Indv 1 reached to grab his gun.

    4. KR shoots individual 1

    Thanks for the links. I’m going through them now.

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      3 months ago

      Because he went there looking for a fight. You can’t do that then claim self defense.

      He drove 20 miles out of his way, across state lines, to put himself in danger. That’s not how self defense works.

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        3 months ago

        The rebuttal to this I’ve heard is that it was his workplace and he had a right to defend it (or at least from his point of view) esp after witnessing what happened with the riots in mpls a few weeks prior. If he didn’t work there, I’d say I’d agree with your assessment. Does it matter if he worked there and it was an area he considered somewhat part of his community?

        And just to be clear. I agree: in my opinion this kid had no business being there with an AR 15.

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          3 months ago

          First, he had no business with an AR-15 because he wasn’t old enough, but no, it wasn’t his business he was protecting, he was not and is not a business owner.

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            3 months ago

            I agree. The way they struck that gun charge on the WI law technicality was garbage and he shouldn’t have been near any guns.

            On the business thing: I agree. As an outsider looking in, seeing an employee going to defend a place of work is odd. But then again, I didn’t grow up in small town America so I’m not too familiar with the sense of community and kinship in those areas. I have no idea. All I can think of is where I live in small towns me have pretty close bonds and try to look out for each other.

            I do think your take is reasonable and there isn’t much for me to disagree with.

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      3 months ago

      Yea, all 4 of them forced him to travel 20 miles so they could surround him.

      Talk to a psychologist today. please.

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          3 months ago

          His employer and father weren’t on trial for their MURDERS.

          I’ve met a lot of dense motherfuckers before, they mostly couldn’t help it. I feel bad for your family, bro.