• In League With Seitan@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Or, hear me out, what if we try growing food in the Midwest, rather than the biofuels, industrial lubricants, and cattle feed we grow there now?

  • Sewer_King@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Maybe trying to farm in swathes of arid land using massively inefficient watering techniques and refusing to innovate for decades wasn’t the best idea.

  • invertedspear@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Holy hell, I swear people who write opinion pieces like this have no idea what a mountain is.

    It takes about 30 Watts to move a gallon of water up one meter. Start running the numbers on what it would take to move water from the Great Lakes (500 ish feet ) over the Rocky Mountains and you should quickly realize how terrible this idea is.

    Same calculations should be used to determine that farming at 1-2 thousand feet in elevation makes desalination a bad choice as well. But desalination can be used for all the people living near the coast and allow farms to use more of the water at the higher elevations.

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    3 months ago

    Everybody saying farm in different areas and I’m saying get rid of every golf course or any other excessively wasteful recreational use of water.

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      It’s clear that this will become an issue and the USA will just help itself. In this article not a thought is given to how Canada depends on this water. Canada is completely unprepared to resist this, and the USA knows it.

  • Reality Suit@lemmy.one
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    3 months ago

    Desalination and verticle farming. The tech has been around for a while, but the poor rich people don’t want to miss out buying this year’s model yacht.

    • anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Desalination is expensive energy intensive and vertical farming is to expensive labor intensive. We could do them but they are massive inefficiencies when other options are available.

      For better resource utilisation we could go vegan, except for animals exclusively eating grass/hay and waste products. But doing that would increase the price of meat and milk products, while making other foods cheaper and more available.

      Sadly we can’t have people only eating meat on some days, like in the “good old days”, better use up all of earth before handling it of to the next generations.

      PS: Sorry, I’m feeling argumentative today.

      • Reality Suit@lemmy.one
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        No, you’re good. And that right there is the basis of the problem: costeffectiveness. There is so much more that the world could have, but those that have the money to make things only want to make those things if they can make a certain amount of profit. Making a profit isn’t good enough if it isn’t a lot of profit.

        For example: solar. When I was a kid, all I would hear is how solar is so inefficient that it would be cost prohibitive to power everything off solar. Now it’s just a matter of time.

        • psivchaz@reddthat.com
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          The cheaper options aren’t even cheaper, we’re just ignoring the cost and subsidizing them. Suppose that a gallon of oil cost how much it took to produce, but also how much it costs to scrub the resulting CO2 from the air, clean up any spills and scrub any CO2 made during production and transport, plus pay the additional medical bills of the people who’s health is affected both in production and from the resulting air pollution? That price would be a hell of a lot higher, but we instead just pretend we aren’t paying those costs (even though we are and will).

          But yeah, the people with the most money and the ones making the laws don’t have to pay those costs now. They can just pretend nothing is wrong til they’re dead, let someone else hold the bag later.

  • MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    You will feel the wrath of canadian geese if you even dare think of stealing one single drop.

    And we will not be sorry.

    • Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
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      Um where I’m at, we sold the rights to our water reservoirs. Last year the lakes were the lowest in 50 years or more. I wish we released the attack geese.