• 9point6@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but I’m also in Europe and stand by my original words, they were from my perspective

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      4 months ago

      Oh, I thought you were an American worried about how you look outside and I was trying to calm you down. I respect your perspective of course, but it seems to me that a failed state is a bit exaggerated for this, Somalia or Yemen are still a little worse than the USA in the comparison. Authoritarian, close to breaking up as a nation, things like that I think are closer to reality, that is my vision also from the outside, I could be wrong and you may be closer to reality.

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        4 months ago

        The way I see it, it’s a failing state. Some institutions are still working “properly” so to speak. Some are going to shit, and some are already fucked.

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          Yes, I suppose you are right, the most basic thing has not failed but certain fundamental and important institutions seem to be in it, in any case one can have a horrible and dystopian but functional totalitarian state, without being failed, I don’t know if I explain my point correctly .

          this is also for @[email protected], I don’t know how to answer both of you at the same time, but what I say is valid for both of us.

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        No that’s fair to say, there was a bit of nuance in me saying “looking a bit like a failed state” and not explicitly saying “is a failed state”—I’m more saying they’re long down the road, not necessarily there yet