• nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Jesus in canon was only violent one time and it was against the merchant class. In some translations they were merely set up outside the temple not even in it. He also called for a new Jubilee, which is cyclic debt forgiveness holiday.

    Capitalism is anti christian and has been from the beginning.

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      Although he is credited with the modern phrase, a version of Marx’s “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” can be found in the New Testament.

      ³² And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. ³³ And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. ³⁴ Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, ³⁵ And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

      – Book of Acts

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    Today’s “Christians” are absolutely KILLING Christianity because the kids see the dishonesty, blasphemy and hypocrisy - most young people want nothing to do with it, except those who see a free lunch in it.

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      Honestly, I was down with Christianity until college. I’m not Catholic, but I attended a Catholic University. I was raised Lutheran.

      College was a really good experience for me. I got a good education, made friends, and had fun. I still have good feelings about the school.

      However, the hypocrisy of the conservative Catholic leaders of the university, and their cowardice in the face of a calm discussion of issues, led me to see that the Christianity I was taught to believe, while overwhelmingly positive, was not lived by most people who claimed to be Christian.

      Edit: that was about 33 years ago.

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        I had similar experiences in Christian high school I was forced in to, and in discussions with my parents. It’s pure blasphemy to have any intellectual discussions and not simply agree with what your leaders around you believe.

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      While we’re at it, he wasn’t a fan of public displays if faith either

      And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.

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        They clearly don’t believe in Jesus. At this point they are just pretending to be Christians and destroying it from within, at least in the US. American-style Christianity still hasn’t spread everywhere, yet.

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          They believe in the Jesus their pastor tells them about. They don’t read the Bible.

          But I’m not going to call them fake Christians. That’s a ‘no true Scotsman.’ They worship Christ, so they are Christians. It doesn’t matter that they don’t worship the Jesus of the Bible. The Jesus of the Bible was fictional anyway.

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            I am not the one calling them fake Christians, God did

            James 2:10 “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.” The Bible said to take care of the poor and sick, fairly simple commandment, and they are failing to follow it.

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                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

                Not a logical fallacy. Anyone can claim they worship Christ, but all religion have obligations that if you don’t follow you are clearly not a follower.

                No one can follow everything in the Bible. It contradicts itself all over the place.

                No one can follow “feed the hungry, heal the sick, and house the houseless”? I understand if it was some contradictory command, but this one clearly isn’t.

                I will give an example from Islam since I am more familiar with it. Alcohol is prohibited in Islam yet some people claim to be Muslims and consume it. Those people fall under one of two, no third:

                1. They know they are committing a sin and feel bad about it.
                2. Deny they are committing a sin.

                Those who are group 1, are still Muslims but sinners, but group 2 are out out out!

                So those who don’t to feed the hungry and deny the obligation, aren’t Christian.