• مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    They clearly don’t believe in Jesus. At this point they are just pretending to be Christians and destroying it from within, at least in the US. American-style Christianity still hasn’t spread everywhere, yet.

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      4 months ago

      They believe in the Jesus their pastor tells them about. They don’t read the Bible.

      But I’m not going to call them fake Christians. That’s a ‘no true Scotsman.’ They worship Christ, so they are Christians. It doesn’t matter that they don’t worship the Jesus of the Bible. The Jesus of the Bible was fictional anyway.

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        4 months ago

        I am not the one calling them fake Christians, God did

        James 2:10 “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.” The Bible said to take care of the poor and sick, fairly simple commandment, and they are failing to follow it.

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            4 months ago

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

            Not a logical fallacy. Anyone can claim they worship Christ, but all religion have obligations that if you don’t follow you are clearly not a follower.

            No one can follow everything in the Bible. It contradicts itself all over the place.

            No one can follow “feed the hungry, heal the sick, and house the houseless”? I understand if it was some contradictory command, but this one clearly isn’t.

            I will give an example from Islam since I am more familiar with it. Alcohol is prohibited in Islam yet some people claim to be Muslims and consume it. Those people fall under one of two, no third:

            1. They know they are committing a sin and feel bad about it.
            2. Deny they are committing a sin.

            Those who are group 1, are still Muslims but sinners, but group 2 are out out out!

            So those who don’t to feed the hungry and deny the obligation, aren’t Christian.

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                4 months ago

                A charlatan. Jesus said faith alone isn’t enough.

                James 2:14-18 ESV What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works?

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                  4 months ago

                  “Charlatan” is not a religion.

                  Again, what is the religion of someone who worships Christ?

                  You can use the magic words all you want, but that’s not an answer.

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                    4 months ago

                    The term used in Islamic jurisprudence for someone who claims to believe in a religion but doesn’t follow it is munafiq i.e. hypocrite. I don’t know what it is called in Christianity/English. But since Islam borrows a lot of concepts, some literally such as shaheed being literal translation from Greek: martyr, and I have heard Christian Arabs use “munafiq”, I would think the Greek word for it will be related to hypocrisy.