It’s almost like Trump tried a coup to avoid leaving office the last time around.

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    Maybe the fear is because he’s hinted towards that and also said that?

    Really need to look at both sides here. /s

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      As an avoid Trump supporter, I’ll give you lads some insight as to why he intended to do this. What few people know is that I actually made a jolly good show of runnin’ for office back around the time The Donald was about to make america great again, but sadly my efforts didn’t fall through because of the uniparty system at the time being the democrats, so my ideas never really fell through.

      This is why every girl I date has to be on the alt right of the political scale and why I also join hate groups on the internet for those that do not fall into the correct side of the political spectrum. Sorry kinda lost my train of thought but yeah that’s why trump is beat president IMO.

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        I legit cant tell if youre a troll or not cause you just use words in the entirely wrong places. Hell im not even convinced that you are a native English speaker because both paragraphs are fucking weird.

        Ya know what im just gonna embrace my Redneck heritage and say I hope you piss off the wrong person IRL and mysteriously disappear only to be found in the outskirts of some backwater town after twenty years because they are building a new grocery store.

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          Obviously it was stolen. Stop the steal! Get Alito on the line and have him flip his flag.

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    Undecided voters are concerned that if Donald Trump returns to the White House, he’ll never leave.

    And . . . yet they’re undecided??

    I don’t . . . is this a . . . I mean . . . WHAT.

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      Yeah but Biden is a disappointing centrist, so clearly I don’t know how choose between him and an authoritarian dictator.

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        You make a valid point, but the reason people are undecided is that they they have no properly informed opinions. I hate this narrative that Biden is ineffective. Biden has done a lot of good things. And where congress failed, he found a way to get shit done anyway. People don’t know that because media sucks and their echo chambers don’t tell them. Or alternatively, their expectation about what a president can do in one term is completely unreasonable.

        And that is all while ignoring that a republican congress will hold back the entire country for years just to make sure their guy looks better. And it works! People complain about shit not getting done but couldn’t tell you how their representatives voted on those things.

        So yeah, pretty much what you said. They think the candidates are roughly the same, but they have no clue how what their candidates do actually affects them.

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          And that is all while ignoring that a republican congress will hold back the entire country for years just to make sure their guy looks better. And it works! People complain about shit not getting done but couldn’t tell you how their representatives voted on those things.

          And when something does get pushed past the obstructionism and helps people out, Republicans sometimes claim credit for the very thing they voted against.

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            Or they sue the government with some BS argument for standing to have it repealed by activist judges.

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        Also, he’s old! Or so the New York Time and other “liberal media” keep telling me! Also, Genocide Joe, etc… /s, obvs

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      Undecided voter is a euphemism for “someone who literally does not give one shit about the world beyond their tiny little bubble in it”.

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      If you saw Jordan Klepper’s Russia special, John Bolton straight up says he thinks Trump will pretty much end democracy.

      And then mentions that he’s going to write in a candidate when he votes.

      I don’t get it man. I’m not going to be happy voting for Biden, but I’d vote in Caligula’s horse if it meant avoiding fascism overtaking democracy in the US.

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    Worse yet, I am afraid that Trump would die in office, then VP Donald Trump Jr would become President for 2 more terms, then by the time Eric is ready to takeover they will have already held the Constitutional Convention that turns the country into a benevolent Trump oligarchy, in which the title of “President” becomes hereditary, just as the Founders intended.

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        “Benevolent” being used in the same sense that China is a People’s Republic, or NK is Democratic.

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        Well, they think they’re beneveolent, at least with regard to the people who they feel deserve it.

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      He’s already King of Trump Tower, and ofcourse “the bestest American”, so by rights he IS king of America and will lead “his” people accordingly. “King Trumps President in power” and all that, so he now just needs to cement his family line in the role.

      I’d find it immensely funny if he now already declared one of his family members as a running mate for VP position 😅

      Already can hear the lame excuse: “it is needed now because they are the only ones to be trusted to do their job, for the better of the country” (Ofcourse it’s convenient in the case ol’ Donald is incapacitated for some reason, the one next in line cements the legacy for the century to come…)

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    8 years into this I find it hard to believe there are any “undecided” voters, I’m willing to bet most of these people have already decided who they’re voting for but they won’t publicly admit it for fear of fallout from their peers.
    We see it a lot in Bible Belt States where people are very vocally opposed to abortion access, yet still turn out in staggering numbers to vote for it when it’s on the ballot.

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      There kinda are. Very privileged people who don’t need to pay attention to politics because the fascists aren’t ever targeting them. So they can be clueless and just see the biggest soundbites that make it past political TV. If you haven’t been paying attention to the shitshow, it probably looks a lot tamer. =/

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        If they’re attacking trans and gays they might as well be attacking straight people at this point

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      Undecided doesn’t necessarily mean they haven’t decided who to vote for. It means they haven’t decided if they’re going to go vote.

      Alternatively it means they’re scared to say who they want to vote for because either they’re blue in a red area and are used to hiding it so they’re not shot or they know Trump is a piece of shit but are scared the Dems are going to force everyone to change genders and pee in front of each other.

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    If he gets back in office, he’ll leave in a body bag.

    That’s not a threat, I just don’t see him lasting much longer.

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    Well he has gone on record saying he should be a three term President many times. You don’t have to really speculate, plus the judges are in his corner as well. I wouldn’t put it past him, he doesn’t care about rules or decorum.

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    And it’s not even just that he won’t leave, since he’s gonna die pretty soon just of “natural” causes, if natural is what we have to wait for. He’ll make changes that permanently affect the role too. Going back to democracy from dictator generally takes extreme violence historically. And generally outside influence. The states becoming a dictatorship is basically setting up world war 3. With a decent chance of the states not being the winner. Especially if Trump is planning on following whatever Putin is feeding him for the changes to make. Cuz we know that would be Putins goal. And all Trump cares about is going down in history, not sure it matters to him what he’s remembered for, or he’s convinced himself, or been convinced this will be seen as a positive move.

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    I just can’t think of any reason anyone would think that. I mean sure he said he wants to be dictator and he acts like he already thinks he’s dictator, oh and that coup thingy… nevermind I see why.

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    He is borderline senile and doesn’t live the healthiest lifestyle. He might damage the system beyond repair, but I doubt he’ll stay around for much more than one legislature.

    Edit: Before getting angry and comment, do realize I wrote “he might damage the system beyond repair”…

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      So my grandpa is almost blind and his hands are shaky… the chances of him hitting my with that gun he is waving around are slim to none… so I guess it’s just fine to help him load the gun and make sure he has access to it whenever he wants… right?

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      His dipshit supporters might be just fine with handing it off to one of his failsons. Or handing it off to the likes of Bannon and friends.

      I mean, once the system is ruined, anything can happen. Just because he dies in office after instituting fascism, doesn’t mean we’d revert to normalcy.

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      He’s lined his kids up behind him to take the reins. We’ve already got Lara Trump as co-char of the RNC. It’s a takeover. From the party to the judiciary to even local level politics.

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      "BREAKING NEWS

      The United States Government is putting unprecedented money into science that may allow people to live potentially forever! AS A HEAD IN A JAR! What impact will this have on…"

      Year 1 of Trump Presidency, probably.

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      He might damage the system beyond repair

      A guy like Trump doesn’t break the system, he simply exploits the oversized flaws people choose to ignore.

      One of the jokes in Trump claiming “I could assassinate a political rival of I felt like it” is the recognition that he’s absolutely correct. He could have rivals arrested. He could have rivals shot. He could have whole neighborhoods bombed.

      We do this overseas all the time. We just call it “regime change” and insist we did it as a favor for a population that will greet us as liberators.

      The only difference between Bush sending in the marines to snatch Saddam and Trump sending in the marines to snatch Ted Cruz is which bunker they’d be hiding in.

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      He might damage the system beyond repair,

      If that was the case, I’d say bring on Trump - but, somehow, I don’t think that’s going to be reality.

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          They’ve already done a large portion of it. The damage is done with the judges they’ve installed not only in the scotus, but around the country.

          They now have the power to legislate via the courts. They just file lawsuits in favorable locations (5th circuit) and worst case scenario it gets to the rubber stamp that is scotus so they can pontificate about how some 2nd century pig farmer proposed a law that should actually be taken as official because AmErIcAn HeRiTaGe or something.