• JCreazy@midwest.social
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    7 months ago

    Isn’t this just fear-mongering? This comic implies that every single time that someone rejects a man that man is going to do something bad. I’m not going to deny the fact that there are men that are unhinged but this is nothing but a man-hating comic.

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      • Over half of women in the USA have experienced sexual violence
      • 1/4 of women have been raped or had someone try to rape them
      • 1/3 of women have been sexually harassed in a public setting.
      • The leading cause of death of pregnant Americans is murder

      There’s a good reason why we’re cautious.

      https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfact.html

      https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/homicide-leading-cause-of-death-for-pregnant-women-in-u-s/

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        That 1/3 feels low tbh. Hell basically every woman I’ve talked about it with has been sexually assaulted in a public setting. Some more severe than others of course but being groped in a bar by someone is such a common experience for women that I can’t help but wonder if they used the word sexual harassment rather than described it. There’s that study that showed if you describe rape without using the word a lot more people are willing to admit to it than if you just use the word.

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        I understand that but there is a big difference between being cautious and being a paranoid man hater and that’s what I’ve been seeing a lot of lately. There are a lot of disgusting men in the world, I won’t deny that, but to assume all men are like that is asinine.

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          We aren’t assuming all men are like that, we’re assuming an unknown man is more likely to be like that than is worth the risk.

          And then there’s the fact that the majority of rape victims knew and trusted their rapist. Then we’re here knowing that when we’re raped or abused or whatever else we’re going to be treated like fools for trusting the person who hurt us.

          So in short, not all men, but far too many women

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            So if you assume an unknown man is likely to be violent towards you and it’s not worth the risk then how do you ever expect to meet new people that are men without automatically assuming they are a rapist? Also, you said that the majority of rape victims knew and trusted their rapists which means that you can’t even trust the people you know. So now you’re telling me you literally can’t trust anyone and you’re trying to tell me that you’re not paranoid. Please explain to me how that makes sense.

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      I read that comic much more literally and it think this is true in general. We see something in the news frequently and it can color our whole life. Yea, too many women have experienced an outburst from some rejected guy. Men’s mental health surely is a problem our society needs to do something about. However a random conversation is safe for most people most of the time. I believe women don’t need to live in fear but I’m biased just like in the comic. I like to think both of us want the news to focus on accuracy rather than simple fright or outrage

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      Hey, go pet an alligator.

      Studies show most alligators have no carnivorous intentions towards humans, and usually just want to get away. So probably most of the time they’ll just run off at worst. Maybe once in a while they might try biting back to remove a limb, but surely that won’t happen every single time.

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        This metaphor doesn’t make sense when you think about risk analysis. If we are comparing humans to alligators here then let’s say you go up to 1000 people and put your arm out in front of them. Now do the same thing with 1,000 alligators. Is it more likely that the alligators will be far more aggressive? Probably. Now until this experiment is done we’ll never know but that is the reason why your alligator metaphor. It also implies that women interacting with men would be equivalent to women petting an alligator which let’s face it most people wouldn’t want to get close to a wild alligator.

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          let’s say you go up to 1000 people and put your arm out in front of them.

          All fine and dandy but that’s not what they were comparing it to

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      Yes, all forms of murder are statically rare in the USA and most people of all genders have an extremely small chance of ever being murdered. Homicide of any kind is not even in the top 10 causes of death in the USA. Violent crime is overall lower than it has been in recent decades and is on the decrease. So basically none of us need to waste time or energy worrying about that.

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      deny the fact that there are men that are unhinged

      Oh look… somebody is peddling the “few bad apples” routine again.

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        I am not sure if you think that is some sort of “gotcha” but that isn’t it. In fact, I’m not sure what you are implying at all. Care to elaborate further?