Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even ‘historically calamitous chief executives’ linked to civil war

Donald Trump finished 45th and rock bottom of a list ranking US presidents by greatness, trailing even “historically calamitous chief executives” who failed to stop the civil war or botched its aftermath.

Worse for the likely Republican nominee this year, his probable opponent, Joe Biden, debuted at No 14.

“Biden’s most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency from Trump, resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessor’s hands this fall,” Justin Vaughn and Brandon Rottinghaus, the political scientists behind the survey, wrote in the Los Angeles Times.

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      9 months ago

      Because for once, America is helping against an imperialist aggressor rather than encouraging it. It also happens to be in our best interest to show to other dictators how bad an idea it is.

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          OK. Now we get directly involved and Russia goes nuclear, or we don’t get involved at all and Russia takes over Ukraine.

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                FIght your own fight. This war by proxy shit is bunk. If he’s bad enough to stop, then let’s go fucking stop him. If he’s not then why waste our money and their lives? It could be over tomorrow if we really wanted it to be, but we’ll just string it along, drag it out. Fuel the war machine.

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                    you don’t know that. and by being the first country to “go nuclear” they’d be putting a HUGE target on their backs. no way that would happen.

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      Because the US disarmed Ukraine in exchange for security promises. Time to actually live up to your promises

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        oh so why don’t we ACTUALLY DEFEND instead of just sending fuck tons of money are arms? like i said, this shit could be over tomorrow if anyone really wanted it to be. to many people are making too much money off of it. war is good for business incase you haven’t noticed.

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          I’m not saying we shouldn’t, I’m saying it’s better to send arms than not to send them