To me it feels like a matured Reddit. (At least most of the time 🙃)
Less content to go through, so you end up going through posts and comments a bit more thoroughly. This translates to higher engagement from users overall compared to Reddit.
The con of course is less content to go through.
Agree. For about half of what I’m interested in, there’s some activity on Lemmy and the conversations aren’t just “no u.”
I wish I didn’t have to, but I still lurk on Reddit for some very specific hobby and occupation hubs. I think there’s a lot more “blue collar” activity over there than there is over here.
A lot more entertainment, too.
I’m still astonished there isn’t an active movies or television presence over here. Feels like the topics over here are primarily news, technology, politics, but pop culture, movies, music, television, even gaming have somewhat low activity. Really bizarre those haven’t gotten firm footing.
I’m wondering how much of that is the sorting algorithm. Waiting patiently for lemmy.world to implement 19.0 so we can get the scaled sort working properly, but that seems to have been…stalled or something.
[email protected] and [email protected] has good enough engagement that every week there is something to talk about
So make some content. Almost all of these posts seem to be about not having content to consume, but someone has to make it too. Reddit used to have the same problem, the Internet was just smaller back then.
As an open platform that’s similar to reddit, I’m in favor of it.
The reality though is not that great. And a lot of it comes down to at least some of the people who are here.
There doesn’t really seem to be enough content to allow for browsing a curated list of communities yet, so I mainly browse by all. And what I have seen are a handful of seemingly extreme viewpoints with little to no room for nuance and discussion and an attitude from those people that they are absolutely correct in their beliefs and ideas. I’m talking tankies, hatred for Israel, hatred for cars, hatred for landlords/renting, and evangelism for Linux.
I know that having extreme attitudes is certainly not unique to lemmy as it exists all over the Internet and elsewhere. But it does seem to be fairly concentrated here. And again, without enough engagement in the smaller or more niche communities there isn’t really enough content on its own.
So instead of actively browsing communities I want which would likely end up with very little content, I have started blocking instances and communities instead so I can still get a mix, but filter out things that I don’t like. And that doesn’t make for a great experience.
I have also seen some really stupid/ridiculous admin/mod drama that people also seemed to think wouldnt carry over from reddit, but of course it has.
All that to say, I still enjoy it enough to continue to browse. But I don’t really participate often. And it has to a degree eliminated at least some of the bullshit from reddit.
I’m talking tankies, hatred for Israel, hatred for cars, hatred for landlords/renting, and evangelism for Linux.
That’s a good summation
I think matured reddit is literally correct. People here at least seem older.
However people here definitely are also of a certain group. Which is not too surprising - it’s a certain demographic taken from Reddit, not a random subsample. This is not really a good thing.
People here also seem more extreme in their political opinions (as in, not very “usual” or “casual” political views). This makes discussions a bit one-sided and polarized… But then again political discussions on reddit have always been so nice and proper and productive in comparison right /s
However I also see a lot of reasonable people and a lot of hope. I see more politeness (mostly outside of any political stuff).
I also like that people have choices - choice of instance and choice of client for example.
There’s some good and bad but for me it’s basically reddit with a bit less activity and slightly different experience but not significantly so. I’m confident that more people will come over time and that will solve most issues. And the benefits will still be there by then.
I like how on Lemmy we can actually talk about things such as Climate Change. If the question is 1 + 1 = ? then we can discuss whatever the actual solution might be - whether it be 3, -1, 1.9, 2.1, whatever - as opposed to “it’s not even happening and you are stupid for thinking that it is”.
That’s not even Right vs. Left, it should just be Polite, and it is Engaging and Fun or at least more so than getting yelled at by bots and toddlers on Reddit.
Personally, I find the people here very elitist and unwelcoming, and I have found myself spending less and less time here because of it.
And argumentative and pointlessly contrarian. Reddit had that problem too, but it seems more ubiquitous here.
It’s a human problem. Only way to avoid it is to not use social media. I’m about to hop off everything it is making me lose hope in my fellow humans seeing some of the comments I see. It’s also baffling how genuinely stupid some people come across, or sometimes it’s clear they just don’t understand what the words they are reading are even conveying.
Interesting, really? Maybe I just don’t engage with people that much, but it seems pretty chill or at least definitely no worse than Reddit in that regard
It definitely depends on the community. I’m mostly noticing it in the meme communities. A high percentage of jokes in the memes that I see are at the expense of a group that I am a part of, and I guess I just don’t really relate to the people here. So I just don’t come back very often.
That could explain the difference in experiences. I filter out those communities as best I can given the tools available.
Have you not seen the Linux fanboys on Lemmy? I see a post every day at least about how Windows is terrible or how x browser is inferior to Firefox.
Mmm, well yes the Linux bias is pretty strong but I don’t really like windows either hahaha. I see where you’re coming from though, that could be a little off putting if you aren’t at least a little into Linux
Yeah, it’s really horrible. Never experienced this level of hostile, argumentative know-it-alls anywhere else.
I have to assume half of Lemmy is people banned from reddit for being like this. Im worried they’re slowly scaring away everyone else and its distilling the ecosystem into a toxic pit
Could be worse, at least it’s not Voat, which consisted of ALL people and communities banned from Reddit (and usually for good reason aka racism, sexism, fat people hate)
Friendlier than reddit, but a lot more really stupid hot takes than reddit. Not as many shitheads; but the shit heads that are here are even shittier than anywhere else I’ve been on the Internet. Mostly the super paranoid security and super hardcore “free speech” folks that are like the main character of Conspiracy Theory. This platform seems to attract a lot of those.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. There are some hilariously poor takes on here, and some that were never an issue on Digg or early-days Reddit. I’ve had arguments on here that I’ve never had anywhere else, from Americans telling me that I am incorrect about my own country, people telling me that I am wrong about software I’ve literally worked on with my employer, and frankly some of the worst political views you’d find on a left-leaning board.
I can tolerate the Linux and security nutjobs, because they’re just rehashing the same tired arguments from a decade ago, and will be making up the same nonsense about switching their parents from Windows to Linux and them just saying “oh, that’s nice, it’s really good” all while they’re just happy that their son is interacting with humans for a change.
I think that’s kinda just become an issue everywhere. People are a lot more brazen with their stupidity now than ever before.
Literally true, bc when an actual world leader (USA, UK, Canada, ofc Israel, Brazil, etc. etc. etc.) says stuff, some people strangely are likely to believe it.
Like: “Drink bleach”. I am 100% not kidding you there - multiple people did precisely that!
It emboldens the crazies to realize that they are not alone.:-(
I can tolerate the Linux and security nutjobs, because they’re just rehashing the same tired arguments from a decade ago, and will be making up the same nonsense about switching their parents from Windows to Linux and them just saying “oh, that’s nice, it’s really good” all while they’re just happy that their son is interacting with humans for a change.
Ouch, man
Makes sense. There are two types of people here: those that left reddit by choice, and those that got ran off because they were assholes.
To be fair, I didn’t exactly come here by choice; I was ran off of reddit because Spez is an asshole and killed off the only good way to use the site on a mobile device. Though had I known about Lemmy before the appocalypse I would have come by choice. I didn’t know about it until all that kerfuffle and was already looking for alternatives.
Yeah, same here. But you could have chosen to use their shit mobile app, is what I mean.
Sadly so many of the tech people here are the kind of slashdot dredge that think gluing USB ports shut is good for security and installing a Plex server is the solution to any media-related problem expressed.
Self host everything or die kind of people.
There’s also that weird “we’re better than people on Reddit” smugness.
It’s rare, but it is a unique brand of fuckery you don’t have to deal with over there.
Back in the day I used to see tons of posts claiming that Reddit was “the elite”, in comparison to the likes of Facebook, or Twitter, or Tumblr, or Instagram, and so on. So, while your statement is technically true (the best kind!), that anti-Reddit people don’t tend to say so…on Reddit, so much as here anyway (though if you look in the likes of r/ModCoord, occasionally there is a comment that makes it past the new mods and is allowed to criticize Reddit in some way) I think it’s common to all social media. We (in-group) are The Best! :-P
The smugness can be a bit annoying but I interpret it as mostly jokes and healthy for the growth of the platform. I am enjoying myself more here than on Reddit, and when I see that others share that sentiment (smugly or not), it does embolden me to encourage my friends to give Lemmy a try.
Did you just reframe smugness as not only justified but helpful actually, and really it makes a place more popular?
That’s some 4D smugness.
Idk, if all the discussion on Lemmy was ‘damn this place sucks’ then I wouldn’t want to share it with my friends. Maybe it is just a bad take though lol I’m not feeling too hot on it reading it back now
This is all in good nature… I mean, there is a reason why quite a few of us are here. Myself included.
…and yeah, I’d like to see healthy engagement here and if that means a little smugness just to convince people to get involved, I’ll take it.
There’s also that weird “we’re better than people on Reddit” smugness.
It’s rare, but it is a unique brand of fuckery you don’t have to deal with over there.
Isn’t the Reddit equivalent something along the lines of, “We’re better than people on [social media]” smugness? Social media being a catchall for say, Facebook, Twitter, or in the past few years, TikTok.
It reminds me of the classic silliness of competing forums for the same subject/topic back in the day. “We on TechFans95 are so much better than people on TechFans94” and vice versa.
Apparently i should install Linux.
This gave me a good chuckle. Every community promoting Linux.
It’s a little bothersome when you have no interest in Linux and are completely fine with Windows.
Nah, it’s also fine if you use something like FreeBSD or TempleOS.
If Reddit was a water park, Lemmy is the small adult jacuzzi room in the back.
If Reddit was a water park, Lemmy is the small adult jacuzzi room in the back.
The soak and poke?
I was enjoying it, but two things are getting tiring: the lack of social sciences and humanities, and especially the misogynistic ‘tone’ of some users.
As a sociology major who is also a fan of the humanities, I totally agree with you. While I’ve always been much more of a lurker than a regular poster–even while I was on Reddit–it still seems like there isn’t a lot of content here that I feel I can really contribute to or engage with. The most prevalent posts all seem to be tech related or are just doom and gloom stories. It makes this place feel cold and bleak.
And yeah, the casual and even blatant misogyny from some of the users is appalling (I still remember that post about the career fair for women months back that got overrun with angry men).
Feels like an echo chamber filled with angry political activists that seem more interested in hating and breaking things rather than discussing solutions. Can’t say I like it here but for some reason I keep coming back. I probably block on average 3 to 7 people a day but doesn’t seem to make much of a difference. Makes me further lose my hope in humanity if I’m completely honest.
yeah we have so many useless instance that already exist and thriving in reddit so why bring it here? their subreddit already as sound proof as hell in reddit as echo chamber and they still come here to spread their annoying voice again, sigh( im tired of the post of hating rich people over and over) like come on man I know you hate rich people already
Or landlords or cars or windows or…
Well that’s some thorny insight.
It’s true tho. Calling for violence or people’s death is normal here, no nuance in the discussion, it feels like very few people are there to discuss, rather than validate their own, cemented opinions.
Define “here”. The acceptance for that sort of thing can vary wildly between communities and, IMHO more significantly, instances.
If you see such posts, stop and see which instance they’re posted from. You might see some patterns.
Well, it wasn’t hexbear or the other one if you are asking about that. It was one on the Blahaj zone, which supposedly is a chill instance, and yet plenty of hate.
I agree, the amount of “This person needs to die” is crazy here.
There is even less room for a nuanced discussion of anything.
More depressing news and Linux enthusiasts.
As someone who spent around half my life in IT and half in humanities, there’s a lot less humanities content here than in Reddit or old Twitter. You might not notice it because you might have gravitated towards the IT side of those sites but it’s noticeable here
Yeah, I love Linux, but man, I get it, you use Arch…
I feel like half of the people on here are 45yo Linux sysadmins, and the other half are Germans
The sheer quantity of German memes never ceases to amaze me.
Yeah, my level of German has increased just reading them all 🇩🇪
And I like their pasta thing
Link? What’s their “pasta thing”?
They started putting noodles on all the memes’ heads because the guy who keeps posting memes is called InstantNoodles
Thanks. That’s pretty funny
Dude, I thought you were taking about spaetzle…
We may have to talk about spaetzle. I wasn’t familiar with it but it looks like a great idea ……
How easy is it to eat? My teen is home after getting his wisdom teeth out and I’m trying to figure out meals he can eat. Pasta can go either way - macaroni is fine. Tortellini may be as soft but is too big for the tooth area he is comfortable using. Gnocchi is too chewy. If I don’t get a new pasta idea on the right side, it’s time to move into fish: salmon is flaky so should be good. Canned tuna is broken up but real tuna is too chewy. I wonder if cod is flaky enough
Spaetzle is generally chewy. Similar to dumplings in effort. Prob not what you’re looking for.
My grandmother combined spaetzle with American chicken noodle soup. Made broth, thickened with flour, cut the spaetzle long and thick. It’s amazing.
Sounds delicious. I’ll have to keep it in mind for later
I’m a 45yo truck driver tyvm!
I use arch btw.
I’ll bite, I miss the sysadmin and msp communities. I didn’t post much ever and won’t ever, but I learned a lot there over years. I’m not getting that here, and it’s pretty much why I was on reddit.
As a sysadmin, I handle windows, cloud, Linux, networks, BSD, and more daily. But the “Linux desktop is best” crew are more cult than community & my personal desktop is Linux, which I like, but it’s not the answer for my parents, my partner or most of my friends or clients.
I gloss over American politics since I’m not American.
I don’t hate cars. But I’m an advocate for walkable cities. I love cars in fact. I would quit my job if I could earn enough just restoring cars slowly all day.
But I’m still here. So that’s also a statement.
I think “FuckCars” is meant to be “FuckCarDependence” but that’s not as catchy. People in those communities are usually pretty open about the fact that cars have their purposes and aren’t evil on their own.
Basically the same issue as r/FuckCars
Yeah, I am on team “Fuck Car Dependance” because I hate everything about em - driving, the ecological impact of cars and the society wide inequalities created and reinforces by designing space around them.
But I would be virtually unhirable in my field if I didn’t drive… And there is zero way to fix that even if we managed to dismantle the system of strodes, massive parking lots, low density suburbs, inadequate public transit etc…
Oh yeah, delivering them poems while driving past would be pretty hard without a car ;)
Seriously right?!
What chances have I without
My motorized steed?
I know, it’s really starting to get to be abit much. I get weird looks for liking Ubuntu, for example.
Its like floating on an inner tube down a slow meandering creek instead of holding on for dear life to a shitty wooden raft going down Niagara Falls forever.
Its a lot easier to get off and stretch my legs when I need to
I also wish there was more enterprise focused IT community.
The self host is not a replacement for homelab or sysadm.
I can’t even get good information security discussions @infosec.pub. I was hoping there’d be some security ninjas running around. Just a news bot.
I even think about mentioning enterprise Microsoft products, get evil capitalism lectured. I can’t personally change the business world’s IT paradigm. Business world…more lecture coming
Also used to work for a MSP as well.
I’ve been in MSP for 15 years now and honestly it’s so love hate. The variety and change is awesome but the cowboyism keeps me up at night in sweats.
I’d never be able to learn so much anywhere else, but because it’s msp I’ve got no proof I know it (no training or non expired certs).
I can never read
walkable cities
And not lose it
Not sure where you’re from, but I’m from Australia and so my experience in the 8 times I’ve been in Japan and 6 times in Taiwan, you don’t need a car. A car can be pleasure. You can use a car, but to move millions of people a day, really good public transport is needed. Being able to walk to a interconnected grid of transport, that can link buses, trains and underground rail allows for better night life, better work balance with being able to study or watch entertainment in transit, and everything is open and accessible. Getting back to Australia with hundreds of in-build multi storey mixed commercial residential complexes but primarily cars to travel makes no sense. We have a housing crisis but no infrastructure to support the density needed where the people work and live. But a culture who remembers 30 years ago when the population density was lower, labour was more common at warehouses not as much knowledge work and were more disperse over space, everyone had backyards with hills hoists, and two car garage and a shed. Those days are gone but nobody wants the infrastructure noise or density, but it’s too late. We have all that but without transport options.
Our trains are so bad that they need to be on 15 minute at rush hour intervals because schedules are hard and they’d crash otherwise. Japan has them coming every 2-3 minutes. Imagine going to the station not knowing the time table because at most it’s 3 minutes to wait after work for the next one, if it’s too packed, wait 2 more.
Your mileage my vary where you are, but in 10 years I can’t see this population growth and density growth being solved with cars.
Yeah, i walked into this on my own
I meant walkable cities sound like an insult for fat people, your are overthinking this
Personally, i am for the concept especially since i don’t plan to ever drive a car for personal reasons
I lived in Japan for a year. Travelled and set up a new vase of operations every 2 months or so… and I rode a car exactly 4 times over the full year. Once was in a single day there and back again during a company trip. Once was in a cop car when I got so very lost on my way to my destination in the boonies that the bus driver I was trying to talk to waved over the police who decided to just give me a lift… And once was a taxi I took because I just decided I was too tired to huff my 60 lbs worth of possessions to board a boat in Tokyo Bay.
It was brilliant. Now I am back in Canada and it’s basically just Australia but cold.
I’m really starting to hate it, but really don’t want to go back to Reddit. Every post about Israel and capitalism makes me want to quit. I wish there was a better alternative.
Me too, it feels like every post is about getting you to hate more.
Yeah, common sense really triggers the fantasy land Marxists.
i’ve been feeling the same way the last couple weeks. i like lemmy but there’s nothing to see here if you don’t want to talk about politics or linux, and it exhibits many of the same things i dislike about other social media platforms as well.
its also making me realize that maybe i don’t want “reddit when it didn’t suck so bad” but rather what would really bring me the happiness i’m seeking in reddit replacements is likely something entirely unrelated to social media.
For the first few months on the platform, I noticed these trends that I would end up agreeing with later on:
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Liking, or straight up adoring Linux
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Disliking, or straight up despising cars
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Everyone is left-wing and liberal
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Israel stinks
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Rainbows galore
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Big companies are cringe
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Independent media is based
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Products made by big companies are known to be spyware
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The Chromium “open-source” browser, as well as the engine that it uses, is basically the reason why Firefox is dying out
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Right-wing politicians are bad
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Piracy is basically fighting for freedom of information on the internet, especially when big companies tend to be so overprotective of their intellectual property in situations where they don’t really need to
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Free, open source software is basically the future
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The European Union is basically where everyone on Lemmy lives in real life, and if not, it’s where everyone wants to live (which is my case given that I’m from Morocco)
Other very notable points that I have when comparing Reddit with Lemmy are the following:
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The community is very passionate yet very small, it kinda feels like Animal Crossing
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Goddammit, having multiple instances federating with each other is such an amazing thing that literally nobody can wholly own the thing and make crappy decisions that end up ruining the whole thing at once (cough cough Twitter)
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API is free, API is free, API is free
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Being such an obscure platform, it has helped me tremendously with cutting down on social media usage due to how insanely addicting it can be at times, sometimes in the worst possible scenarios, like when you have an exam tomorrow
I’m pretty grateful that I made the decision to ditch Reddit for good. I really like this place, and I mean a lot. I wouldn’t be called “Resol van Lemmy” if it weren’t for Spez being such an ass.
A lot of this is very similar to how I remember Reddit in 2010 or so.
I wasn’t active in Reddit back then, but I remember hopping in logged off a couple times per month just to see what they were doing, and that’s pretty much I how remember Reddit from those days.
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