I’m not sure how you gathered that thought (the ongoing slander about me maybe, though I would hope nobody sees deflection towards that from a discussion about death is fair). I know that the killer didn’t even try to not escalate things.

Consider for a moment where we are six months later: a new CEO who is more or less the same as the old one with the same limited powers, industrial rules that haven’t changed because the system is more complicated than that, a dead CEO whose death sent a shockwave in his family and sphere of influence, and a killer who A) is either afraid to show himself, or B) was afraid and got caught after fleeing only to become a prison cult following, with his own health system not having changed because he never tried doing something like suing and was never insured with the CEO’s insurance to begin with (among other red flags that prop up).

That assumes class war is war in any way aside from name. In this particular instance, death was definitely a premature outcome. Nothing else was even tried.

You say that like you aren’t, by definition, standing up for murderers. I am what one might call dual denomination (“denomination” one being “Aiken” which is the world’s most LGBT-friendly “sect”, the other being Australian aboriginal folk Christianity which often blends with LDS tradition in Australian form), and both traditions warn against dependence on violence and the value of diplomacy. I will say again I don’t support the victim wholly, but that how things happened was excessive.

I’m not standing up for the damned. I’m standing up to overkill. Not sure how me describing precision of justice should earn my words the adjectives you give them, not to mention my denomination doesn’t even adhere to regular notions of Hell.

There are maybe a few hundred people (if not a few thousand) in this ML community. For every one person who thinks what happened was overkill, another five are praising the killer, hence the memes that paint him as a literal saint. Surely an unreluctance for violence isn’t a pillar or prerequisite for Marxist-Leninism (especially in a discussion about people hiding their affiliations), right? I’m not cheering for either side, but one side resorted to murder when they could’ve, I don’t know, sued.

This is the kind of thing I am referring to and which brings us to the OP’s situation to start out with. The way things ended, especially when the killer wasn’t even insured with the person’s insurance or could’ve just sued, isn’t the way to go.

People often worry the democratic process isn’t functional, correct? Well, the way to deal with things peacefully was wide open, and the killer instead opted for something to make a statement, presumably for the fame (according to all the psychoanalysis, though I don’t pretend that’s infallible).

I’m confused. I was responding to the part of the question about confrontations and people disguising themselves and explaining that there was more to it than that. What did I do wrong?

Oh. Thanks, friend. I wasn’t in the know.

So I should start by saying I’m not a Communist (albeit many of my ideas are technically “socialist”, and I took a quiz once to make sure) but that I don’t disrespect Communists as the stereotype shows. There are several mindsets and Communism is just another mindset. For me, the “feeling” of red scare doesn’t come from their ideas, it comes from the pushiness experienced. I have been on the receiving end of several difficult times simply because I had even minor disagreements with Communists, such as whether anyone should be advocating assassinations (I don’t think so). When I see a whole swath of people cheering for some guy who travelled to NYC to eliminate someone who was actually himself trying to fix a system he was put in charge of, it is without any doubt in the world that I’m going to have serious misanthropic contemplations. Even though, yes, some seem to be veiling themselves in some way to escape the fear factor, often with emphasis on anarchist elements as you say, that doesn’t solve the issue. You’re all potential friends, and I just want peace between us.

Why the skepticism anywho?

You can think what you want, and I’d respect that. I would not impose out of mere disagreement. But I am who I am.

They don’t have less corruption though. They’re literally dismantling their own democratic processes. New Zealand at least has its declared values in mind. And perhaps this is all not helped by their desire for American defense or by talks that Canada might join the EU. The rest of what I said were just pointers.

I am a transracially mixed race asexual woman from Vermont; you are shooting the messenger with overvigilance if you think I’m saying anything inspired by a random menagerie of bigotry.

You don’t think the EU or its member states have any corruption? The streets of cities like Rome and Paris are filled with scammers whom they just let roam around to do their thing. Spain in particular has a massive burglary problem. UK police don’t even necessarily trust themselves during public events. I know that in the very least, Auckland isn’t lazy.

You say that like mentioning happiness and democratic stability in comparison to EU countries is irrelevant to the assertion that EU countries are somehow doing better than it.

New Zealand has ranked higher than the EU in terms of both democracy and happiness.

It’s a proto-chicken egg. It’s not a chicken egg until chickens become a breedable species. That one chicken could be sterile/infertile like a mule for all we know.

It depends on what you mean. NZ is better than the majority, if not all of, the world’s nations.

As opposed to what? A friend?

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I didn’t know there was a time limit.