• eksb@programming.dev
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    10 months ago

    Democrats don’t just want a pro-genocide corporate shill, they want an 80-year-old pro-genocide corporate shill.

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      10 months ago

      Get ready for next 11 months of “BoTh SidEs aRE thE SaME” bullshit.

      If both sides are same, why not vote for pro-genocide corporate shill who is not a rapist, not a traitor, and not a criminal?

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          10 months ago

          Unfortunately the incumbent has a massive advantage. It’s rare for a party to switch to a different candidate when one of theirs already has the seat.

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          10 months ago

          Please name the third party candidate that has a reasonable chance of beating both Trump and Biden.

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            10 months ago

            This is the primary. This is when we should be able to vote for candidates who more closely align with our views. (Like being anti-genocide.)

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              10 months ago

              Primaries are when you vote for a candidate from a specific party. The person above me said to vote third party. You can’t do that in a primary. It was obvious they were talking about the general election.

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            Both of the people you named commit genocide. Voting for them means you endorse genocide. I fail to see how percentages are relevant here.

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              10 months ago

              The vote is to elect a president. If you are not going to vote for someone who has a chance of winning, what is the point of voting at all?

              I will happily vote for a third party candidate that has a chance of winning. I have asked for a name many times and have yet to be given one.

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                10 months ago

                I live in a state that is not even close to be competitive. Why should I not vote for the Green Party candidate?

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                    10 months ago

                    In my state, the two major parties keep changing the rules to make it harder for other parties to get ballot access. If a party gets a certain number of votes in the general, they can keep their ballot access without needing to jump through a bunch of expensive hoops designed to keep them out. I vote to have more choice in future elections. Because that is all I can vote for.

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                The Greens have a 99% chance of winning if everyone stops acting like Biden is holding a gun against their heads to prevent them from voting differently.

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                  I see, so if something that is almost certainly not going to happen happens, a Green candidate who you might not name has a 99% chance of beating Trump.

                  That’s not what I asked. I didn’t ask for special, very unlikely circumstances.

                  Name the third party candidate who has a good chance of winning as things stand now. Just give me a name.

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                    10 months ago

                    Biden doesn’t have a good chance of beating Trump either lmao. I’d give him 20% max.

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                  “candidate X would easily win if everybody voted for them”

                  No shit, now who are they and how do you propose convincing people to vote for them?

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                    10 months ago

                    By not voting for genocide and showing that there is support for the other party so people can finally jump ship. If their voting percentage stays at 2% forever nobody will ever jump ship.

                    Will you win in one election? Not likely. But continuing to vote for Democrat will only solidify America sliding into Fascism (though with the current Genocide I’d argue we’ve reached that point already)

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          Low turnout and high degree of votes for independents tend to favor Republicans in USA, and you have heard of their project 2025 right? A program literally designed to be a clone of nazism

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              They are literally telling you what they want to do. They want a republican president above the law and make a permanent legislative and judicial majority which can’t be unseated through elections.

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                If they wanted that they could have done it in 2020 when they controlled everything and Trump was president? We heard this story back then and aside from the looney parade on Jan 6, the Republicans did not try to keep him in power like some god ruler.

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                  They tried but couldn’t due to infighting, and because they didn’t have a plan because they didn’t expect to win. Now they have plans. See project 2025 to start with

                  They absolutely tried to keep him in power, all the lawsuits and other shenanigans was all about trying to block transfer of power when he lost. They literally tried to rig the vote by damaging the postal service, because they knew democrats would rely more on voting by mail with the pandemic going on. They’re working on gerrymandering state maps to artificially give Republicans more winning districts, giving them a chance to win states where they lost the popular vote.