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    If Biden ended the war on drugs it would nearly completely clench at least his party’s re-election, probably swing the congress on over too.

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        Honestly, people being able to get tested known doses of various drugs of choice would save a lot of lives and create a lot of opportunity to intervene and help people recover. Making drugs illegal just causes miser and funds crime.

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      Maybe for weed, but I don’t think that would be so clear cut for other substances. Even here San Francisco, the public is only willing to go so far with decriminalizing.

      I would wager that weed, and maybe certain hallucinations would be bump in the polls, but for narcotics and opioids, ending the war on that stuff would hurt him. But maybe I’m wrong.

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      And lose the +Police demographic. Imagine how many other demographic groups that spans. Not to mention, the voters who would go for that are in most part disenfranchised and can’t vote due to prior convictions. Which is a human rights scandal in itself, but that is neither here nor there. Except it is there.

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    I’ll bet good money that if he tries it it’ll be closer to August

    Because you fucking know it’s gonna get challenged and that the Supreme Court is gonna be all brow furrowey trying to invent a reason why it’s unconstitutional to not pursue a drug policy based in exactly zero medical science.

    At least if it’s near the election the topic will still be fresh by the time SCOTUS chooses that laws are for binding Democrats and protecting Republicans.

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      It would be extremely hard to argue that, but given the three clowns trump appointed who knows.

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    Oh they’re going to put this carrot in front of us again?

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      “Biden stands to gain approval if he does incredibly obvious thing that people approve of.”

      So he’s not gonna do it then? Great.

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      I would like for all of us to sit down, just for a short while, together, take a deep breath, and figure out where we’re going.

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        Just imagine. We could be an interplanetary species by now. Instead of solving problems, we instead create them for short-term monetary gains.

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      Unfortunately 80% of the country wants us to continue our support of Israel or to do even more. I agree with you, but we are the minority.

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          I misquoted the poll I was thinking of. It’s about 40% who say the US involvement is enough or that we should do more. 20% say we should be doing less. My point that we are the minority still stands.

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            If Trump beats Biden things won’t improve for Muslims anywhere.

            Anyway… tankie accelerationists are a very small minority of the electorate and probably wouldn’t vote even if Biden did everything they wanted.

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              Let’s be clear, if Trump beat Biden, SCotUS will make a path allowing Trump to exile Muslims & strip their citizenship.

              It can & will happen here.

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            Lmao you underestimate the religious people in this country. Sure we have Muslims but they are far outnumbered by Christians. Christianity is a bloodthirsty religion. Their whole religion involved taking from others outside of their group. Their rules applied only to others like themselves, it was totally fine to fuck over other people. The other people are people who equate anti Israel to antisemitism and dont want to be accused of such things.

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        80% of the country wants us to continue our support of Israel or to do even more

        Source?

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          Anecdotally, I can say this. I live in red country. Everyone I talk to is unconditional about supporting Israel.

          Still though, I think if Trump were to come out tomorrow and condemn Israel and back Palestine, they’d all shit themselves, go home and change their pants, and then still vote for Trump. Seriously,

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            Ok. Well I’m an American Jew who’s been to Israel twice, and have been taught my entire life that it’s the promised land, and I say they’re currently war criminals.

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              Another American Jew here. I have never been to Israel, I don’t want to go to Israel and I do not support Israel, its apartheid or its genocide.

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                  They need all the Jews to return to Israel to rebuild the Great Temple so Jesus will return. But they’re going to have to kill me because there’s no fucking way I’m going to Israel.

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              You may have also benefitted from an education that prioritized critical thinking and empathy

              Which is a pretty unrelatable experience for most Americans

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          I mean we all know this. It’s a matter of historical fact. It’s like living with a parent who completely gaslit the whole family. Everyone knows it’s all bullshit, but everyone has too keep playing along.

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    Ah yes, because it’s not about doing what is right, it’s about political gain. Fuck america so so much.

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      In theory the two are supposed to be aligned. Political will is supposed to go up when the politicians do what’s right and down when they do wrong. That’s what is going on here but I agree that they aren’t usually aligned.

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        Not really. I highly doubt it will be rescheduled prior to election when they are just talking about it now.

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        Liberal cope. Maybe in 2028, maybe in 2032, certainly he/she will need to utilize this card in 2036? Wait wait but what if they wanted to pull that shit in 2040?.. Fuck

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          Lol he’s actually taken steps to reschedule it, I know you probably wish we were in a dictatorship where Biden could just say, “weed is now legal, Trump will now be put in jail, and top republicans are to be killed” but we don’t live in that world thankfully. He started the process to reschedule marijuana in 2022, with the last update being from the DEA on December 2023 being that they are reviewing whether to reschedule marijuana and what to reschedule it as. I assume if Biden just signed an executive order to change it, it would have been held up in the courts and probably overturned because of not going through a formal process ( imagine if Biden could just unilaterally make fentanyl street legal).

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              That’s literally the process he’s going to now. Not to mention it’s actually beneficial for him politically. It’s pretty sad how little you know about politics, yet you feel the need to discuss it.

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            imagine if Biden could just unilaterally make fentanyl street legal

            Would clear up some problems for Hunter, at least

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          On top of the answer you have already received (people forget by the time election rolls around), I’ll be extra pessimistic and say that majority of Americans publicly support progressive policies, but may in private and in the ballot box lean more conservative. If you know you sound like a monster, you might say the nice things in public, but then when not accountable for their image in the ballot box… well…

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            You might have a point if the poll was asking people about race or any other sensitive topic, but people will not dress up their opinions if they don’t think they’ll get attacked for them. Nobody has their job threatened if they advocate for private health insurance companies.

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              Sure, not all progressive policies have this phenomenon, but for some, even in a relatively private but not actually private or anonymous context being asked about some policies may elicit a different reaction.

              All of the cited policies in that article has a counterpoint that may drive different anonymous private behavior.

              They will mean either taxes go up or companies that you buy from may have to spend more money. So it’s incredibly selfish to declare that people shouldn’t have a livable wage, shouldn’t have access to workable income when accommodating a newborn, shouldn’t have access to higher education. However, in the ballot box someone might be very selfish “I make more than minimum wage, so I don’t care, but I do care that it might raise prices, I am not about to have a kid, so happy to screw over those that are for the sake of the companies saving money, I have health insurance and so I don’t care if someone else can’t realistically have it/afford it”.

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                So you’re saying that in a poll, people would lie and say they want higher taxes but in private they want lower taxes? Why? Wanting lower taxes is, again, not something that would bring on attacks, there is no reason to lie about that. No one’s name is being publicized in this poll either. You’re making up all these odd scenarios to try to get an opposite answer to what is staring you in the face right there.

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                People argue against a livable wage all the time, though. They just say that those jobs “were never meant to be a career”, that it’s “supposed to be for kids earning extra spending cash”, that “if people want to make good money they need to develop skills”. They’ll tell you that if we interfere in the “free market”, it will wreck the economy, and we’ll all be starving. They’re thrilled to tell you how they, or their parents, made sure to be in a good financial position before having kids, and if people have kids who can’t afford the costs including time off to be good parents, that’s because those people are irresponsible. And on down the line. They’ll shame you for “demanding free stuff”, and walk away feeling smugly superior.

                It’s just fundamentally not how human psychology works to publicly acknowledge what you think is good, and then privately work against it. People who do the worst and most selfish things always have a justification for it.

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                  Some people will happily express that sentiment.

                  Others might be more reserved…

                  At least that’s the a way I can reconcile all these countless articles that repeatedly show that like 70-80% of people support key policies of the democrat platform, and yet the elections seem to break almost even between republican and democrat. Districting shenanigans and the electoral college can account for some oddities, but the senate keeps being roughly a tie and even the popular vote for president is much closer than all this data suggests it should be.

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          The election cycle.

          It doesn’t matter if people support it if they don’t remember it well enough to come out to vote when it matters. You see this with Biden already, people completely missing the effort they have made for tons of work that people support.

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            Yet republican voters are far more dedicated to voting because the republican party makes bold promises and pushes to do them. Even if it’s as stupid as a border wall, they’ll make that promise and actually get funding for it and build at least part of it. Democrats, though, “it’s not feasible”, “it’s not possible”, “we can’t do that”, “it’s not realistic”. If democrats would show that they at least try, voters would try. No, forgiving a few billion in student loans here or there after letting the problem build up to 1.7 trillion dollars isn’t enough effort. What if instead they said “we will eliminate student loan debt completely” and then work on it, instead of hitting up low-hanging fruit like enforcing existing student loan forgiveness programs that forgive after 10+ years of interest payments?

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      That’s kind of inevitable, and not such a bad thing. The president is one person. One person shouldn’t be deciding what is right arbitrarily. For the president to be looking at what the people want, that’s a good thing. Now, our democratic systems are deeply flawed, so that “what the people want” and “what improves electoral chances” are not as closely tied as they should be, but that’s another matter.

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        Yeah it’s basically baked into the system. Politicians will be politicians and there are other checks and balances like the vote that are supposed to keep them reigned in. Not excusing bad behavior on the part of politicans, but as voters we could excercise more control over them if we were more educated and organized. There are too many crappy politicians that aren’t afraid for their jobs.

        This is obviously simplifying and ignores other urgent problems like gerrymandering, vote suppression, and money in politics.

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      It’s not even what’s right in full. Rescheduling helps get us towards legalization someday but rescheduling probably also means people are still going to be sitting in jail for possession until well after 2028.

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      Why not both, though. Plus not letting Trump be the president (which happens through political gain) is doing what is right.

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        Perhaps our definition of dystopia differ, but any country led by an authoritarian Trump with Project 2025 underway, where the executive branch is dissolved to favor a Trump dictatorship, I’d call that a fascist dystopia.

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    People are funny.

    Biden will probably get this done. He said he was going to, seems like the administrative steps to do so are happening.

    But here’s what will happen: the Supreme Court is getting ready to shred another longstanding precedent known as the Chevron Doctrine. Without Chevron, any federal court will be able to enjoin any action of any federal agency just by saying that the agency’s interpretation of the statute, even though it’s reasonable, isn’t what Congress really intended. In other words, agencies will no longer be able to regulate much of anything because corporations will just file a lawsuit in some backwards ass federal court district and the judge’s interpretation of the statute will carry more weight than the agency that administers the statute.

    That’s the Republican plan, here. They give half a shit about DEA administrative scheduling, they can’t wait to destroy the FCC, SEC, IRS, EPA, FTC, FEC, etc. If the DEA reschedules cannabis, and the Republicans cannot lock up enough black and brown people, they will judge shop until they find one to say doing so isn’t what Congress intended with cannabis prohibition statutes, and enjoin the rescheduling.

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      You know, without Chevron, it won’t matter what the DEA thinks and there will no longer be a schedule… Just like our stoner founding fathers intended!!

      Ok but really you’re saying like all this destruction is necessarily bad because all government is necessarily good. These agencies all have legislated remits that will largely be unaffected. DEA and ATF will hurt the most which I’m okay with. FTC will be hurt in a bad way, and I’m pretty sure in fixing one congress will grant more power to themselves and these agencies anyway, so with or without Chevron we’re fucked.

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    They legalised cannibis in NY and now my 79 year old mother is getting high at parties. Thanks Obama.

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    I hope Republicans get behind it and reap benefits too. Rescheduling shouldn’t end up another political victim like health care was.

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        Ok here me out. Obama wants to smoke a joint with you however you have to listen to Nancy Pelosi talk about her grandchildren for twenty minutes. What do?

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          Dude, it’s a gran talking about her grandkids. That’s happy talk, not politics. It’s just twenty minutes and I have better weed than 44. It’ll be over before you know it. Like, I spent five minutes talking pizza and stupid bicyclists (mostly my brother, we were talking about the same person but I’ll never tell her) with Hillary Clinton after a college commencement and she was delightful. If she had been able to show that side of herself, like, ever in politics, she’d have maybe won elections.

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            I wouldn’t want to talk politics with Pelosi. Can go on YouTube and find videos of her dressing people down. She knows her shit and she’s fast.

            I agree re: Clinton. I’d say it’s like that with most politicians. That’s why their constituents keep electing them and everyone else hates their guts. They didn’t get elected without charisma.

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    How sad that of all the reasons to support the candidate who isn’t a raging fascist, this is the one people care about the most?

    Like…yeah, marijuana is great, but holy shit there’s a lot more important things going on in the world.

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      It’s not just about being able to smoke weed, it’s more about the disproportionate amount of minorities who get unjust prison sentences over a fucking flower. I’d say to POC it’s pretty important.

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      The ven diagram of people who are cool with fascism and people who are cool with cannabis must overlap.

      There’s people in prison for cannabis, doing decades or even life sentences. To people effected by these laws this is an important subject. And I bet States could still keep it illegal and keep people in prison if they choose to. But I can see how it might not seem like a big deal if you think this only effects whether it can be bought it in a store or from a weed dealer.

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      I don’t smoke weed, and probably wouldn’t even if legalized, but I fully support its legalization because of the absolutely MASSIVE negative effect the war on drugs has had on minority communities.

      I don’t really care if people smoke it or not, I care about the people getting their lives destroyed for smoking it.

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      Take your pick:

      White man in his 80’s, likes folk dance, great conversationalist, hates gays.

      White man also in his 80’s, champion of birth control, proponent of extraconstitutional presidential acts, and wants to enslave black people.

      Make sure to fill in the X properly, else your vote may be void:

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      Unfortunately the scheduling is in the way to becoming legal because it’s been such a roadblock for so long.