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    The GOP absolutely imploded. That’s why they went from “compassionate conservative” to full on fash.

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      They were never compassionate about anything other than money, guns and jebus.

      Just because they have shifted their branding doesn’t mean squat about them supposedly imploding. That couldn’t be further from the truth.

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        This is just ignorant man. The GOP, especially prior to the late 90s, was a coalition party the same way the Dems are. They now are not.

        You don’t have to agree with anything the old GOP stood for to recognize this fact.

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          You need to realize: Republicans were lying back then, too. Those are talking points for them, not fundamental beliefs.

          The only difference now is they’re just telling you what they mean instead of couching it in dog whistles, like “urban” (black) problems, or the Satanic Panic of the 80s and 90s…

          They’re the same judgemental pricks. They’re only using meaner words these days.

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            They really weren’t tho. You had traditional conservatives (what, say, Trump pretends to be), small-business Chamber of Commerce conservatives, neocons, evangelicals, and some amount of neoliberals that identified as conservative, along with independents-who-trend-R like Libertarians.

            There used to be very strong pro-welfare conservatives, pro-environment conservatives, etc sprinkled throughout the entire mix.

            Those groups have been driven away or subsumed into nationalists and evangelicals.

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              Those other conservatives were only there because of the lies of the party.

              What kind of legislation did they pass?

              Abortion bans, protection of marriage acts, controlling sex ed in school, “patriot” acts that legalize spying on citizens, limits and controls on immigration, tax cuts and deregulation…

              They’ve ALWAYS been judgemental monsters. Stop buying their lies. They aren’t even using them any more.

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        Not trying to be an asshole but how old are you?

        McCain vs Obama to Trump vs Biden is a much different landscape now. Republicans are a mess, stand for nothing and most voters who aren’t die hard Trumpers are lost looking for christo-fascists or “libertarians” but ideologically all these groups have no platform, plan or face in the US.

        And on top of that despite what media sells, people are sick of the clearly fake culture war. It might get the baboons screeching but most people do not care anymore

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          It’s the same goddamn bullshit. How do you people not see this?? Since Reagan the GOP party is the same worthless piece of human garbage. They might fly a “compassionate conservative” banner this year, or pretend to be “tea party” lunatics the next, but they are the same scumbags pushing essentially the same awful policies for decades now. Pro-business, pro-ultra rich, anti-worker, anti-consumer, pro-military, anti-education, anti-abortion, pro-jebus, pro-guns, pro-limited-government-except-for-things-they-care-about-and-then-in-that-case-the-sky-is-the-limit.

          NOTHING HAS CHANGED. They can put lipstick on a pig or horse or anything in between, but the core of that awful party stays the same and in the end they vote in unison nearly every single time.

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          No way. Look at Bush. Protection of marriage act? The patriot act that created the NSA? They were just more polite about being the same judgemental authoritarian assh*les.

          This is like a child finding out what hotdogs are actually made of.

          The hotdogs haven’t changed no matter how grossed out you are by the truth of the matter.