They really weren’t tho. You had traditional conservatives (what, say, Trump pretends to be), small-business Chamber of Commerce conservatives, neocons, evangelicals, and some amount of neoliberals that identified as conservative, along with independents-who-trend-R like Libertarians.
There used to be very strong pro-welfare conservatives, pro-environment conservatives, etc sprinkled throughout the entire mix.
Those groups have been driven away or subsumed into nationalists and evangelicals.
They really weren’t tho. You had traditional conservatives (what, say, Trump pretends to be), small-business Chamber of Commerce conservatives, neocons, evangelicals, and some amount of neoliberals that identified as conservative, along with independents-who-trend-R like Libertarians.
There used to be very strong pro-welfare conservatives, pro-environment conservatives, etc sprinkled throughout the entire mix.
Those groups have been driven away or subsumed into nationalists and evangelicals.
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The patriot act enjoyed a comfortable 60% support even years after it was passed: https://abcnews.go.com/US/PollVault/story?id=833703
Honestly man you just don’t understand the way the world was before.
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Also wrong, but youre keeping your Ripken-like streak of big wrong alive.
He’s not even center-right for Norway lol.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway)
Let me know when he starts pushing monarchism, “return to Christian values,” opposes unions, and turns against his populist base.
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It’s not an ad hominem if it is both relevant to the topic and correct.
I didn’t say you supported monarchy. I said that center-right group in Norway does. Bernie Sanders is not center-right in Europe
Reading is FUNdamental
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You said he was center-right in Europe so I picked the ur-example of the progressive ideal in Europe to show you he is not, in fact, center-right.
Where in Europe do you believe Sanders is center-right, and in what ways are those countries indicative of the EU as a whole?
You specifically mention the world stage - do you believe most of the world is more or less progressive than the EU?
You accuse me of strawmanning, but unlike you, I’m actually responding to things you say and not shit I make up. Scroll up and read the thread man.