• m4xie@lemmy.ca
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    18 hours ago

    What is impeachment usually meant to do? Because he’s been impeached twice and here he is.

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      12 hours ago

      It would lead to his removal, but it got cockblocked by the Senate. As intended.

      For those that don’t know. The Senate purely represents old money. They were created as a check/balance to keep citizens from taking away wealth, privilege, and power from the ruling class.

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        12 hours ago

        The British House of Lords used to hold the same sort of power with their ability to veto anything passed by the House of Commons. The House of Commons took this veto power away, but unfortunately they were only able to do this by getting the King to threaten to ennoble hundreds of new people and overwhelm the power of the traditional Lords. Our (US) current King would of course never agree to any such thing.

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          That’s a fascinating historical nugget. I wonder if he would have actually gone through with it? That would have been hilarious. How would they get picked?

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      18 hours ago

      Colloquially it is also meant to include conviction by the Senate. Impeach + convict. But yes, Republicans have been assholes for many decades. It still needs to happen though, so it is what continues to get demanded.

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      Impeachment is meant as a check on an Imperial Presidency. In the Constitution, it is supposed to be triggered in response to “High Crimes and Misdemeanors”. It leaves to Congress what that means. So it does not have to be a chargeable crime. The President is supposed to uphold the Constitution, and Treaties like the NATO treaty are supposed to have the same force as the Constitution. Threatening to attack our allies should count as impeachable.

      However, he has been impeached twice and failed because Republicans in Congress have his back. In particular, the second time around McConnell said that Trump deserved punishment, but it was better done in the courts. Then Surprise! the Courts said the only way to hold a sitting President to account was through impeachment. It was an ouroborous of letting him off the hook.

      We may have to live with the fact that there is no way to fix this, other than voters (or God Himself) intervening, as long as Republicans are too chickenshit to stand up to Trump.

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        Impeachment is the House voting to put the President on trial in the Senate. The Senate is then to hear the evidence and vote whether or not to remove the President from office. Trump was impeached twice but the Senate voted partisanly to keep him in office both times.