Yeah, this just allows people to know that their content is really from the US government. Not verifying them seems like a worse alternative for everyone.
It’s not about verification per se. Since anyone can create an account directly, no BlueSky accounts are necessarily reviewed by BlueSky. Someone could create an account for Nazi pedos who drink blood and you wouldn’t blame BlueSky for that immediately. But if BlueSky came along and said “hm, yes, you are verified” then they have in an explicit way endorsed the account’s ability to exist. Basically the account passed moderation. Since many consider ICE to be an illegally deployed terror force on American soil, it’s you know, a little disappointing to see anyone treat them as a legitimate entity on any level. A democratic president worth his salt will disband the organization on day 1 and sponsor legislation to prevent them ever coming back.
I have trouble with the word endorsed. It’s not as if being verified does anything other than provide a guarantee that the people are who they’re claiming to be.
Personally I think it’s great that they are so willingly publicly verified. It will be useful evidence that their trials.
I understand what you are saying. Verification is just about identity - it’s not validation.
Except it’s about validation on one very basic level. I’ve seen the inside of large social media moderation operations and you are missing one thing. These companies will not verify an account for The Islamic State, no matter how readily they can prove that they are who they say they are. They will not just sit there as a neutral party and say Osama Bin Laden? Looks real to me! They will ban and block and log and report.
ICE are in open warfare against American civilians and BlueSky just said “yep your id checks out.” They could have said “we will not be a megaphone for a rogue agency waging war on Minneapolis.” As for gathering evidence to hang them with later… their BlueSky tweets are not going to add much to the video footage we have of them killing people in the streets.
You don’t block Nazis on the system you own, you ban them outright.
These people are responsible for the death and murder of many and your response is to pretend they’re not there next to you and let them spread their propaganda?? What the fuck is wrong with you.
What’s the issue with them being verified…?
Yeah, this just allows people to know that their content is really from the US government. Not verifying them seems like a worse alternative for everyone.
Yea i don’t get it either, all it means is that they checked and it’s run by actual ICE. It’s not xitter, they don’t get special privileges from it.
It’s not about verification per se. Since anyone can create an account directly, no BlueSky accounts are necessarily reviewed by BlueSky. Someone could create an account for Nazi pedos who drink blood and you wouldn’t blame BlueSky for that immediately. But if BlueSky came along and said “hm, yes, you are verified” then they have in an explicit way endorsed the account’s ability to exist. Basically the account passed moderation. Since many consider ICE to be an illegally deployed terror force on American soil, it’s you know, a little disappointing to see anyone treat them as a legitimate entity on any level. A democratic president worth his salt will disband the organization on day 1 and sponsor legislation to prevent them ever coming back.
I have trouble with the word endorsed. It’s not as if being verified does anything other than provide a guarantee that the people are who they’re claiming to be.
Personally I think it’s great that they are so willingly publicly verified. It will be useful evidence that their trials.
I understand what you are saying. Verification is just about identity - it’s not validation.
Except it’s about validation on one very basic level. I’ve seen the inside of large social media moderation operations and you are missing one thing. These companies will not verify an account for The Islamic State, no matter how readily they can prove that they are who they say they are. They will not just sit there as a neutral party and say Osama Bin Laden? Looks real to me! They will ban and block and log and report.
ICE are in open warfare against American civilians and BlueSky just said “yep your id checks out.” They could have said “we will not be a megaphone for a rogue agency waging war on Minneapolis.” As for gathering evidence to hang them with later… their BlueSky tweets are not going to add much to the video footage we have of them killing people in the streets.
You mean whats the issue with giving them a platform?
No I mean what’s the issue with them being verified
Nazis and their allies should not have a platform.
When blueksy verifies them, it tells you that bluesky is aware of their presence on their (private, centralized) platform and accepts it.
Thus, the verification requires allowing them to have a platform.
Since they should not have a platform, they should not be verified.
So it’s not the verification itself that’s a problem, but rather the platforming
You do not platform Nazis, let alone legitimise them with “verification”.
Yes. And verification requires platforming, so transitively they shouldn’t be verified.
They have a platform. It’s a podium in the white house. It’s having thousands of thugs pillaging, and likely soon raping in your neighborhoods.
Knowing what they say is relevant.
And you can go see what they say there, you don’t invite them into your house to do it.
I don’t wanna go to Twitter, ever, if I can help it.
You said the white house, not twitter. That content will already be distributed through traditional media.
Block and move on.
I subscribe to a bunch of blocklists so I’m pretty sure I won’t be seeing their “content” anyway.
You don’t block Nazis on the system you own, you ban them outright.
These people are responsible for the death and murder of many and your response is to pretend they’re not there next to you and let them spread their propaganda?? What the fuck is wrong with you.
Shadow banning works better than banning even in games
Let them in, put them in a room that nobody visits and let them rant there. Tell everyone that the room contains a crazy person.
It’s the United States government. The platform is implied and given by the people of the United States.
Until that ends… I’m not sure banning them from everywhere but x will make sense?
Any no government entity refusing to enable them is good.